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Criticism Section: "Sexism" and "Marla Heasley's experiences on-set" - Really Necessary?
[edit]I just wanted to open up a discussion here about potentially removing some content.
The only part of the Criticisms section that really makes sense, is the "On-screen violence". Of course, everyone knows that the violence was sanitized, and not realistic.
The rest, including discussion of sexism, seems a bit out of touch with the genre of show, and 80's shows in general. It's an action show, and male-oriented by nature. The show never depicted or promoted sexism. I would argue that Amy Allen's character was a tomboy, and that she was a solid addition to the show as a sidekick to the A-Team, while not being a member. Tawna Baker's character didn't add much to the show.
Any action-oriented show can potentially be criticized for sexism simply because of the characteristics of the genre. Similarly, any female-oriented show could potentially be criticized for being sexist against males. (I'm just making a point...I don't advocate that.) Many sitcoms show a dominant female who constantly derides the incompetent husband. I don't see many criticisms of sexism for those shows. It would be possible to dig up an article or two criticizing just about any show ever produced, so are we going to have a sexism discussion on every TV show article now? That doesn't seem to make sense.
True sexism is the putting down of the opposite sex, not just having a theme that one gender is drawn to. The show never showed any kind of disrespect towards females. It seems to me that the talk of sexism on this article is out of place, not well-supported, and should be removed.
Thoughts? Agree/Disagree? Hannibal Smith ❯❯❯ 23:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think the first paragraph under Sexism about Culea and Heasley should be kept or possibly moved to another section in the article. This provides details about the cast make-up and is relevant to the the episodes aired. The other text is more about behind the camera and is not as relevant, in my opinion. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- I trimmed down the 'Heasley's experiences' subsection and removed the subsection header a month ago. There are 2 long paragraphs in 'Sexism' section now. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:47, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- All of the references in the Sexism section link to the wiki article on Bring Back... episodes. The article does not even mention sexism, and the allegations of sexism occur in the episode must be taken on faith. I'm not a regular on wikipedia, but do these really meet the standards required for an article's references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:39C5:F320:DDB2:1DD8:AF0E:5D06 (talk) 20:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]This show was mentioned on Teen Titans Go!. Larsconks (talk) 13:36, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]It seems unlikely that the Atari 2600 A-Team video game would be released 3 years before the TV show launched.
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Requested move 3 January 2018
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Not moved. bd2412 T 16:14, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
While this show was a big hit in the 1980s, I feel as if this is the point to say that there is no primary topic between this show and the Ed Sheeran song of the same name that is nearly seven years old. JE98 (talk) 03:10, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is there any evidence such as page views or Google Trends to support this?--64.229.165.48 (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Numbers from 2016 and 2017 indicate that the TV series has the most numbers. However, The A-Team (film) is the second-most viewed page; the Ed Sheeran song, third-most. George Ho (talk) 05:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is there any evidence such as page views or Google Trends to support this?--64.229.165.48 (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- The A-Team (disambiguation) lists many meanings. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:59, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose page views show the TV series and film getting 10x the views of the early Sheeran song In ictu oculi (talk) 07:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The TV show is the clear primary topic. And to show my own ignorance, I've never heard of the song. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, per reasoning and viewing information by editors above. I pity the fool who put up this good faith RM. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per above (views, etc). -- Netoholic @ 10:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. The TV show is the obvious primary topic. Paintspot Infez (talk) 12:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Oh come on! Given its influence on popular culture, this is still the clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
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Target audience
[edit]What was the target audience of this TV series? We watched it as kids and had no connection to Vietnam war, whatsoever. Was it watched by veterans (in their 30s or 40s at that time) or by a younger audience? -- Bardnet (talk) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]I love the show the A Tea… 2001:569:FFA0:2200:9557:47D5:B066:6F59 (talk) 19:12, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Composers
[edit]According to the GEMA repertoire, Mike Post and Pete Carpenter had many composers other than Garry Schyman working under them on The A-Team, such as Stephen James Taylor, Velton Ray Bunch, Jerry Grant, Frank Denson, Walter Murphy, Ron Jones and others. Should they also be listed in the infobox, or should Schyman's name be removed? Fsfkkk65 (talk) 01:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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