Talk:Tarantella Napoletana

Sheet music

The notated music in the image isn't correct, but I don't know how to make a new image to fix it. The first two Gs should be in a pick up measure, and the last two Ds in the first measure repeated. Or a dotted quarter D added before the two Ds there now 68.80.218.12 (talk) 02:47, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the image with editable music using Lilypad, and shifted it from G minor to A minor. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:23, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Subject

@Hyacinth and Laros-mew:

Hello, I just created on my home wiki a long article about the tune, for which I was forced to create also a separate Wikidata item.

This because there is actually some confusion, since the tune is a Neapolitan tarantella but is viewed - even in Italy - as the Neapolitan tarantella par excellence (source). Such confusion is (only) partly explained by an American radio source. As a subgenre of tarantella, Neapolitan tarantella is a dance, while the tune is a song by Luigi Ricci; it has no name and is commonly referred as Celebre tarantella ("Famous tarantella"), as you can see in the Congress's 1968 Catalog of Copyright Entries.

The lead section makes not clear whether the article is about the tune, or the dance, by stating The "Tarantella Napoletana" (tune) is the tarantella associated with Naples (dance). It is familiar to North American viewers of popular media as a quintessentially Italian musical riff or melody (tune).

As for the article content,

the statements about the riff refer to the song, and the same applies to those about Arnold-Berle's and Shankar-Jaikishan's versions, as well as to the articles linked under See also;
the statement about La Danza refers to the genre, since Rossini's tarantella is a different song;
the statement about See of Thieves seems to refer to the genre, too.

As for the incoming links, at least two, if not three, refer(red) to the genre or another tune:

that in Hooked on Classics referred to La Danza (I fixed it);
that in Castanets refers to the genre;
uncertain what the link in Yana Kudryavtseva refers to.

@Fasouzafreitas and BASant:

The same issue affects articles in Portuguese and Russian, at least because they both are translated from, of inspired by, en.wiki article and mention La Danza.

So, if the article is about the genre, this should be clarified but there is nothing else to do (it.wiki still lacks an article about the Neapolitan tarantella subgenre). If the article is about the tune, I think it should be amended by removing non pertinent information and we have to merge two Wikidata items.

Thank you, Actormusicus (talk) 08:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, since there was no comment and the situation is very confusing, I created the article about the dance on it.wiki, and two distinct Wikidata items, one for the dance, one for the tune. Could not do any better, sorry. I tried to think about how to improve the English article, but eventually gave up. This because it seems to refer mainly to the Italian riff, while those in Portuguese and Russian are focused on the dance, so I could not have linked them collectively to an it.wiki article in any case.

The better source I found in English could help clarifying doubts. It calls "Tarantella Napoletana" the song including the Italian riff as the main theme, and just "tarantella" other songs, such as "La Danza" and many others. This is correct, except only that they are all "tarantelle napoletane" as a subgenre of tarantella.

Thank you anyway and see you --Actormusicus (talk) 20:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]