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Berkshire Music Center

There is no article for the Berkshire Music Center, most likely because it is now called Tanglewood. (see [1]) However, since there ARE references (eg, Randall Thompson) to the Berkshire Music Center, perhaps a sentence or two could be added to this article concerning Tanglewood's history in re:its name. Then someone who knows how to do that (not THIS newbie!) could "redirect" searches for Berkshire Music Center to this article.

Hmmm... that still wouldn't change the red link, would it? Would it be appropriate to turn it into a piped link to Tanglewood? Thanks for your patience with a Newbie! Laurie Fox 00:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Berkshire Music Center now redirects here. I would add something about it in the article but I don't know anything about it: when the name change happened, when the name was originally used. -- Stbalbach 13:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it should redirect to Tanglewood Music Center, which mentions the prior name. -- Stbalbach 13:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it should redirect to Tanglewood Music Center. Thanks for making that change! Dartgirl 10 May 2013 —Preceding undated comment added 16:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bernstein

Leonard Bernstein gave his last concert here. I think this is notable enough to insert that fact into the article. --77.4.59.155 (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Opera

Is it really appropriate for this article to be under WikiProject Opera? They do perform staged and unstaged operas at Tanglewood, but the venue is by no means exclusive to those productions: this is not an Opera house. Wouldn't this article be better placed under the more general Classical Music WikiProject? Titus.jon (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Tanglewood Music Center

The article "Tanglewood" is entirely about the music center. some of the information on the derivation of the name should be merged--the remainder is just a much less complete duplicate of the TMC article. DGG (at NYPL) 20:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (NYPL) (talk • contribs)

I just read the Tanglewood article and I disagree. It is appropriately about the venue and estate of Tanglewood. The Tanglewood Music Center is a summer program run by the Boston Symphony Orchestra that takes plate at Tanglewood. It is not the same thing. I disagree with this merger suggestion. ~~Dartgirl~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dartgirl (talk • contribs) 16:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Tanglewood refers to the physical place itself. Tanglewood Music Center (TMC) is a music academy where TMC fellows study and perform at Tanglewood. Moshekaye (talk) 03:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given the lack of support over 3.5years, I'm closing the proposal. Klbrain (talk) 19:10, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 June 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 03:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– The music center is not the clear primary topic for "Tanglewood", nor is there a primary topic at all. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. For me - German - Tanglewood means the music centre, unique in the world. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The music center is based on Tanglewood Tales, such that it cannot possibly be the primary topic by longterm significance, nor is it clearly one based on page views._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral on the primary topic, but if moved, convention is to use parentheses for buildings, as in Tanglewood (Massachussetts). 162 etc. (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a building though, it's a location. The building is at Tanglewood Music Center._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say that is accurate. According to the article, Tanglewood Music Center is an "annual summer music academy" where the students are housed at Miss Hall's School. Tanglewood is a complex including several buildings, but it is not a town or designated place, so the parentheses would be the way to go. 162 etc. (talk) 15:30, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Tanglewood has multiple meanings, and no primary topic, so Tanglewood should be the disambiguation page, and Tanglewood (Massachussetts) the preferred listing for the venue. Mburrell (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A move may be called for but oppose "Massachusetts" as dab, it's not a settlement, and readers outside America are not going to know which state Tanglewood estate is in. Tanglewood (music venue) would be a better title. Otherwise PAGEVIEWS In ictu oculi (talk) 07:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Tanglewood is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on both pageviews and significance. (And I agree Massachusetts after a comma would be an especially bad qualifier.) Station1 (talk) 05:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Station1. The hatnote is obviously necessary, but there seems to be a clear primary topic for usage of Tanglewood. The existence of other topics alone is not a reason there is no primary topic -- otherwise, there wouldn't be a need for the concept at all.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:31, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, narrowly, per In ictu oculi. Mysterymanblue 22:03, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.