Talk:TMI Episcopal

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	Reasoning for assessment: Strong alumni. Lots of information with no references. Should have pictures added and trivia removed. Adam McCormick 19:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Formal name

Based on their contact page and the logo it would appear that the correct name for the school is TMI-The Episcopal School of Texas. Vegaswikian 21:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there have been no comments, I will take that as meaning there are no objections to moving the article to TMI-The Episcopal School of Texas. Vegaswikian 21:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My only comment would be that formal name or not, the only name you ever hear used is Texas Military Institute. Even in Wikipedia, last time I looked everything was either piped that way or uses the redirect. — Laura Scudder ☎ 21:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That would be OK also and improvement over the current article name. Vegaswikian 21:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Nein, nein, nein. The name used in all school literature, except that specificly related to the JROTC program, written after 2005 is T.M.I.-The Episcopal School of Texas. While Wikipedia does not always use official names, it should unless a de facto name is demonstrably and considerably more common, is, not was. Pelegius 01:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - There was at least one earlier Texas Military Institute, operated in Austin during Reconstruction. It existed in Bastrop before the Civil War, and was reopened after the war as Bastrop Military Institute. It was soon relocated to Austin, and operated there until the 1880s. A remnant of one of its buildings still stands on 11th St. in Austin. TPOBrien 00:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should reverse the name change, as there has been movement in the school to change it back. This is because the leaders of the school realized that they had made a horrific mistake in renaming a school with years of military history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.204.21 (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While there has been backlash against the name change, the school is sticking to its decision. It is T.M.I.-The Episcopal School of Texas. Not everyone thinks the name change is a bad idea, particularly those who are not affiliated with the school (two-thirds of the students are civilians). The name might not be the most lyrical, but it is more accurate, including the military with the TMI acronym and the Episcopalian element. The article should remain the same. LiberaLibra (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How is it military?

Is it? Are there cadets, or is it just a regular school? That should be noted. --Awiseman 19:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As is noted, the school has an optional JROTC program, which used to be mandetory. 01:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Is mis-spelling also mandetory?--90.208.124.189 (talk) 21:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - It is also one of 45 schools listed as military schools by the DoD.(Lbell07 03:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC))[reply]
    - I added a section about the JROTC program but it needs to be improved upon.MayMayTheDancer 00:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Failed GA

The article failed the GA noms due to lack of references. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Tarret 20:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Faculty Member

I removed "Rodger Kramer" from the Notable Faculty section as there is no chemistry teacher named "Rodger Kramer." There is however as chemistry teacher at TMI named "Roger Kramer," (as it is spelled on the website), but I think there needs to be reason given as to why he is notable. Yes, I know, those who know him say he is notable, but for the sake of the article, documentation and information should be given. LiberaLibra (talk) 05:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:21, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article, which I started, has gotten a little self-agrandizing. However, this is a problem which most school pages come up against. If User:Travellingcari would be so kind as to mark any particularly egregious sections, I am sure we would all be interested and could then work towards fixing it. Pelegius (talk) 21:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing much outside the normal bluster that would cause me to mark an article as an 'advertisement'. I'm sure raising the issue here with specific problems would be a better first step. Kuru ^talk 00:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In retrospect, "unencyclopedic" might have been closer but the tone of this article does not read like an encyclopedia article but rather a school brochure. The hymn is not encyclopedic content, nor is the trivia. I stumbled upon the page accidentally when one of my 'favorite' vandals was warned for his/her edits and I came here to make sure it had been reverted. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 00:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"TMI also occasionally plays 1A public schools in non-district games."

This could benefit from some elucidation. Speaking as somebody who was not educated at a private school in Texas I have no idea whatsoever what a "1A public school" is or what "non-district games" are. It sounds to an outsider like a bit of snobbish jargon - a 1A public school is presumably one of the best public schools and thus just about worthy of playing sport against the toffs. However, I expect it has a technical meaning; this ought to be made plain.--90.208.124.189 (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, no. The number of 'As' a school has reflects its size as used to categorize it for athletic events. The 1A designation refers to the smallest schools.

Another baffling paragraph

Religion and Philosophy: 1 year consisting of two of the following: Old Testament with theology, New Testament with theology, world religions and the history of the Western philosophical tradition.

Does this mean, 'One of: a. Old Testament with theology, b. New Testament with theology, c. world religions, d. the history of the Western philosophical tradition.', or, 'One of: a. Old Testament with theology, b. New Testament with theology, or c. world religions and the history of the Western philosophical tradition.'?--90.208.124.189 (talk) 22:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The latter. I shall alter it accordingly.

The wonders of the Oxford comma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.120.189 (talk) 15:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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