Talk:Syneilesis hayatae

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per [1] --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,@Ozzie10aaaa,please forgive me, The following is a machine translation: Hello, I am a user from Chinese Wikipedia, I am sorry to ask, why is this page returned to draft? This page is one of the translation projects of Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan 1000, which is used to ask questions. This plant is one of the endemic species in Taiwan. The content of the page is translated from the page that has been reviewed and published by the Chinese Wikipedia. I don't know where the problem is, can it be convenient for you to leave a communication so that the librarian can correct the problem? Thank you very much for your time.

以下為機翻，還請見諒：您好，我是從中文維基百科過來的使用者，不好意思想問一下，這個頁面返回草稿的原因是為什麼呢？這個頁面是Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan 1000的翻譯計劃之一，代為詢問問題，這種植物是台灣的特有種之一，頁面內容是來自中文維基百科已經審核並發布的頁面翻譯過來的，不曉得問題在哪裡，能夠方便您留下交流，好讓館員能夠更正問題嗎？非常謝謝您的時間。 Mafalda4144 (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hi, User:Mafalda4144 the following is a copy from my talk from a few days ago...

Please return Syneilesis intermedia (Hayata) Kitam to draftspace. It is a synonym of Syneilesis hayatae (per PoWO), and it has a malformed title; if it was an accepted species, it should be just Syneilesis intermedia. Thanks, Abductive (reasoning) 05:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

done per [2], ( I had used [3] (and [4]) which indicated it was an accepted name, hence use as a redirect?!) Ozzie --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:55, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Wikiproject Plants uses PoWO and only PoWO for flowering plants. If there was an article for Syneilesis hayatae, then Syneilesis intermedia could be a redirect to it, but as far as I know I'm the only systematic creator of such redirects. Abductive (reasoning) 18:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ok , thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:13, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

......feel free to ask further questions, Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HI，@Ozzie10aaaa，@Abductive，Thank you, I still reply to you with a machine flip, please forgive me. But this classification and naming "Syneilesis intermedia (Hayata) Kitam" is verified and approved by the literature, if the use of "Syneilesis hayatae" is incorrect, this is not in line with international practice, I don't understand what you think is the wrong basis? This should not be redirected.

謝謝您，我還是用機翻回覆您，請見諒。但這個分類和命名「Syneilesis intermedia （Hayata） Kitam」是經過文獻查證認可的，若用「Syneilesis hayatae」就非正確了，這樣也不符合國際慣例，不太懂您們認為的錯誤依據是甚呢？這也不該是重定向的。 Mafalda4144 (talk) 17:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at Category:Endemic flora of Taiwan. As you can see, none of them have the names of the botanists in their titles. So Syneilesis intermedia (Hayata) Kitam should just be titled Syneilesis intermedia. Also, WP:Wikiproject Plants uses the database Plants of the World Online to decide if a species of flowering plant is valid. The team at Plants of the World Online is updating their list daily, and is run by Rafaël Govaerts, who is very well-respected. Even 臺灣物種名錄物種編號 says Syneilesis intermedia is a synonym of Syneilesis hayatae. Abductive (reasoning) 18:34, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes some of the Taiwanese sources still use "Syneilesis intermedia" but not all such as this that agrees that "Syneilesis intermedia" is the synonym. KylieTastic (talk) 09:48, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]