Talk:Sybase

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History section

This page needs a History heading to seperate past from today.

This is done now. The original history stuff is now under the "timeline" heading. Will henderson 13:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There should really be something about the merger with Powersoft

Number 2

"Sybase became the number two database system behind Oracle, after making a deal with Microsoft to share the source code for Microsoft to remarket on the OS/2 platform as "SQL Server"." What exactly does this mean? When was this?

A detailed explanation is provided in the Adaptive Server Enterprise product page. Traveliter (talk) 23:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do you pronounce Sybase?

"Sigh-base".... Schmiteye 07:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can anybody put that as IPA in the article? --Error (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Debt to Britton-Lee

Sybase (and hence Microsft's) bcp utility is directly descended from a Britton-Lee utility of the same name. Also, if memory serves me correctly, Sybase's SQL dialect also grew out of the Britton-Lee experience. Sybase were earlier implementors of the stored procedure, but Britton-Lee were earlier, and while Sybase's Transact-SQL developed well beyond B-L's SQL, I don't remember having any great difficulty in migrating from one to the other. None of this is surprising, given that Sybase's original architects were Bob Epstein and Tom Haggin, who both had worked at Briton-Lee.

Does anyone know of any sources that can be used to prepare a Wikipedia article on Britton-Lee, and its relationship to other RDBMS's? Countersubject 07:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Bad Products Selection

All of the products that were listed on this page were updates of the current A-Z product offering that is listed on the Sybase Web site (http://www.sybase.com/products/allproductsa-z). Products that were outdated had been removed and new products were added to the list. Would we be able to add the listing of the products again? --TrisDG 13:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)TrisDG[reply]

Bad products section

Products section is an overly long list that gives no indication of the relative importance of the products listed. Normally for a company like this, the best thing to do is to only list the "important" ones. I don't happen to know which ones these would be, but I have a feeling most of the entries are just clutter. Snacky 03:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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God awful

This article is absolutely wretched. I hate to be another person who walks by, spits on it, and keeps moving, but I just never knew much about Sybase (we were always oracle shops). Can someone please help this article? For such a large impact on IT (or was it? ha-ha) wikipedia should have a better article on Sybase. Help! /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 07:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Timeline Section

The Timeline section includes contracdictory entries for the release of 11.5 and renaming to ASE. Was that done in 1995 or 1997? Additionally, why does the 1997 entry list a synopsis of the Sybase/Microsoft relationship? The relationship and reason for rename are adequately described earlier in the article, and just add clutter here. The two items in question are:

1995: Sybase renames the main product SQL Server to its current name Adaptive Server Enterprise (ASE) for version 11.5.
1997: Sybase’s flagship database product Adaptive Server Enterprise (ASE) starts its life in the mid-eighties as "Sybase SQL Server". Microsoft is a Sybase distributor, reselling the Sybase product for OS/2 and NT under the name "Microsoft SQL Server." Around 1994, Microsoft begins independently developing its own product. When Sybase releases version 11.5 in 1997, Sybase renames its product to "Adaptive Server Enterprise" to better distinguish itself from MS SQL Server.

Rick Townsend (talk) 16:07, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article reads more like a press release

Wanted to really learn something about the companies history and products. Might as well been written by a PR firm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.220.146 (talk) 07:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Although the article does contain some information, it's certainly not written from a neutral point of view. I'm tagging this as advert-ish for the second time. Were the tag to be removed again before any significant improvement I will try to bring wider attention to the issue. Tadanaranu (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can say from personal experience that there's a great deal of actual history left out. System 10 very nearly killed the company off, as it was in no way suitable for production use. Given the web's tendency to erase history, it may be difficult to find a source for that. ALloydFlanagan (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still in use!

It's my understanding SyBase is still in use by some companies who have found it difficult to impossible to migrate. There are independent contractors who maintain it for clients, they are SyBase expert freelancers. I believe one such company still using SyBase is Etrade. I came here to learn more about the product, the actual SyBase database product, and basically found nothing at all. This is strange for something still in use by some large Fortune 500 companies (Etrade was bought by Morgan Stanley). -- GreenC 18:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This version of the article, from 2021, has a lot more information. Not sure why it got sanitized. -- GreenC 18:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sybase Inception Date

I was employee #63 at Sybase. I was hired in 1986. So the statement that the name wasn't used until a few years later is false regardless of what the Bloomberg link says.

Also I question there release date for Microsoft SQL Server. Leadership announced the Microsoft licensing (to staff) sometime after I started working there, not before (as the page states). Here's a link from Microsoft undermining that time element: https://news.microsoft.com/2001/06/28/building-the-billion-dollar-database-microsoft-sql-server-climbs-to-new-heights/. Dollymadisonking (talk) 05:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but, we can't assume you are who you say, it still has to be verified somehow. And that Bloomberg source is all we have, so we'd need another/better source. I'm sure you are right, but you understand the security issues where anyone can claim to be someone. I hope someone can research your claims and find a reliable source. -- GreenC 15:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]