Talk:Syaoran Li

New article with Syaoran from Tsubasa?

I think the article should be split into two - one for CCS Syaoran Li and one for TRC 'Syaoran' and his clone, since there's a lot of information to warrant the split in my opinion (I also think the same should be done to Sakura's article) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.166.17.12 (talk) 12:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Okeday! We now know Syaoran and Syaoran Li are completely separate characters, so we should put TRC Syaoran into his own damned article already! Ggctuk (talk) 07:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead since I hear no protest and separate the article. The TRC Syaoran info no longer belongs in Syaoran Li article. Ggctuk (talk) 12:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're going to make separate articles, make sure you mention on both pages that the characters the character's 'other appearances' in each other’s storylines. It helps the article if you mention other anime that a character may show up in, even if it's not exactly a 'guest appearance' such as in this case when one character is loosely based off the other. 3loodlust (talk) 22:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Is 'Syaoran' being Syaoran Li's son false or not?

Read this and decide please whether Syaoran Li being Syaoran's son should be put into the info box (although it's clearly the same Syaoran and Sakurea as CCS - the sword could be coincidence but the star wans is NOT). Please consider this before you revert 'false' edits when it's been stated at least twice already.

213.166.17.12 (talk) 11:32, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Removing link. I suggest you read WP:COPYRIGHT. Linking to illegal copyright violations will not be tolerated. And yes, it IS false. That is your interpretation and pure OR. Attempts to continue putting it in will continue to be reverted. They are different series. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not even interpretation. There's evidence. First xxxHolic is in the same world (evidenced by the fact Yuko and Clow Reed were in the same world. Yuko confirms it's the same Clow Reed that created the Clow (by now, Sakura) Cards). Later this is furthered in 189 when 'Syaoran' is sent to Yuko in the flashback. He gives his name as Li Syaoran, 'the same name as his father' (Yuko says). We are shown a shot of the STAR WAND that Sakura used to pay the price. Before this it might have been circumstantial but this is more than enough proof according to the Harry Co... I mean for the article. Unless you're suggesting CLAMP themselves are lying. 213.166.17.12 (talk) 09:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Again, yes it IS interpretation. Unless a character says specifically that this "Star Wand is the one that Sakura, who was the main character in Cardcaptor Sakura, used" you are deciding for yourself that they are the exact same person. It is your personal interpretation and original research. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 14:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I know that all these crossovers are confusing, but it's stated in CCS that the "Star Wand" was created for Sakura, and is therefore unique. There are no other Star Wands around the world. --Exephyo (talk) 19:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

CCS is a fictional series. Anything declared within the series is only valid within the series. Again, just because CLAMP decided to alternative universe and play with its characters does not mean that anything from Tsubasa is applicable here without explicit declarations as such. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 19:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

According to you, wehould create an article for Yuko from Tsubasa and for Yuko for xxxHOLiC, since both are fictional series. There's evidence that Yuko is the same person in both series, as there is evidence that Syaoran is the son of Sakura and Syaoran Li.

Sakura Kinomoto lives in Yuko's world, and Syaoran come from that world. Syaoran's mother is named Sakura, and she possessed the Star Wand (this is what is stated in Tsubasa). We know through CSS that the only girl who possess a Star Want is Sakura Kinomoto. CLAMP stated so in Tsubasa, and since the internal crossover tecnique, is obvious that Syaoran is the son of Sakura and Syaoran. --Exephyo (talk) 21:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Um, no, that would be wrong. Character articles should only exists if they are notable. If both Yuko from Tsubasa and Yuko from xxxHOLiC are notable in the real world, then, yes, they would have separate articles. Evidence that they are the same person is irrelevant. It is still you weighing the evidence and coming to the conclusion that it is the "obvious" one is still original research and has no place here. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why is false, since is stated in Tsubasa. Saying that Yuko is the same person in Tsubasa and xxxHOLiC is OK, but saying that Syaoran is connected to CCS is not? Why? --Exephyo (talk) 21:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You said I was saying they should individual articles. I said no, not unless they are notable. They If one is notable and the other is not, then Yuko's article should only be able the notable version, with a mention that the character design is also used in Tsubasa, same as is done here. Mentioned briefly as an appearance in another episode, but not shoving the Tsubasa info into the infoboxes and other sections, because they are NOT the same character. Not Syaoran, and not Yuko. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait, are you saying that Yuko from Tsubasa and Yuko from xxxHOLiC are not the same people? Is there any evidence? --Exephyo (talk) 21:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Evidence isn't needed to say they are not. RELIABLE SOURCES are needed to claim they are, not just "read the manga" but actual, third-party reliable sources or explicit statements from primary sources, not personal interpretation. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Here's some then - in each manga it says "Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle Crosses over with xxxHolic" or vice versa. Also in the Bios in xxxHOLIC it says that the Clow Reed mentioned in xxxHOLIC is THE SAME one who created the Clow Cards in CCS. That's in volume 2 of XXXHolic. If you claim that's wrong then it's you who is wrong. 213.166.17.13 (talk) 09:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but that still doesn't say that the Sakura mentioned in Tsubasa is exactly the same as the Sakura in CCS nor that its the same Syaoran. That only says that CCS's Clow Reed is mentioned in xxxHOLIC. That's it. It does not, in fact, mean that every other CCS character is now tied to Tsubasa through xxxHOLIC. No need to get snippy...blame Clamp for deciding to suddenly go back and try to tie some of their works together in an alternate universe form and having it be all confusing. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 10:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sudden, it's been there from the off... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.166.17.13 (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

We've got this snazzy new "Appearances in Other Media" section that is now futile IMO. Why on earth are we not saying that the tube scene from Chapter 1 has Syaoran's parents in it? That, I believe, is relevant to the plot. Ggctuk (talk) 21:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

No, it isn't. It is Tsubasa plot, not CCS plot. Again, this is the CCS Syaoran article. The Appearances section is for brief mentions of other places the character and design are used, not detailed breakdowns of those appearances. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Image

@ISD: Feel free to put any image you find suitable for the infobox. Of course I would recommend it has to be one made by Clamp rather than the Madhouse staff.Tintor2 (talk) 19:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

@Tintor2: I think the best image is the one used in the infobox here, but I don't know the original source information for that image (i.e. where it was originally published). ISD (talk) 19:56, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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A Syaoran Li cosplayer.

• ... that when the anime Cardcaptor Sakura was released in English as Cardcaptors, Syaoran Li (cosplayer pictured) moved from a central figure to the main protagonist? Source: "The problem with the show lies in the fact that Nelvana decided to cut ahead to episode eight when Li Syaoran appears as Sakura's rival, and then continuing with the trend to show only the episodes with both characters. This is clearly done to give boys a reason to watch the show instead of changing the channel to a rival network." (Anime Fringe: Cardcaptors Vol.1: Tests of Courage review)
  • ALT1: ... that Syaoran Li (cosplayer pictured) from the manga Cardcaptor Sakura formed the basis of two characters in a later manga; one original and one clone? Source: "At different points, both Sakura and Syaoran in Tsubasa are revealed to be merely clones of the original versions of each other in their timelines." (How Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle Gave Cardcaptor Sakura an Alternate Future, Comic Book Resources)

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Broom Service (board game)

5x expanded by ISD (talk). Self-nominated at 14:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC).

• New enough redirect conversion and long enough. (DYKcheck will not flag this properly because there was an article at this title until 2010 when it was merged.) QPQ present. Hook fact checks out for ALT0 and ALT1. No copyvio or textual issues. Image is appropriately licensed, though I cannot say I've ever seen "cosplayer pictured" in a hook! I have added Tintor2 to receive DYK credit given their contributions to the page. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks very much, and yes @Tintor2: does also deserve credit for their work too. ISD (talk) 07:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks but I shoulnd't be credited. I think I am already at my limit of Did you Know nominations.Tintor2 (talk) 11:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Promoter's comment to @Tintor2: there's no limit to the number of DYK nominations you can make—Gerda Arendt's made, like, over 2,000! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 to T:DYK/P4

Bruce Lee?

I noticed that the article was given a category of Syaoran being partly a reference to Bruce Lee but Clamp never admitted that. The Syaoran from Tsubasa seems like was more obvious since there is a big commentary in the story about why he only uses his legs to fight in the first half of the series. However, Clamp didn't mention any Bruce Lee inspirations for any incarnation for Syaoran as far as I remember.Tintor2 (talk) 22:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

The entry for Syaoran Li on the Cardcaptor Sakura Wiki says that: "Syaoran's name (meaning "little wolf") sounds similar to Shao Long, "little dragon", which is one of famous Bruce Lee's given names (李小龍, pinyin: Lǐ Xiǎolóng, often romanized as Lee Shao Long)", but no reference is given. ISD (talk) 06:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Found the source! It comes from a Twitter space they held last year. Report of it from Chibi Yuuto. https://chibiyuuto.com/2021/05/23/clampspace-may-20-2021/ ISD (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@ISD: Neat. THat would be good for the creation section but can such source be used.Tintor2 (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Tintor2 I'm not sure it fits the criteria for reliable sources, and no version of the original is saved. ISD (talk) 06:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Bisexuality

I removed the LGBTQ categories as the idea of ​​him being bisexual was taken out of context and even the article itself clarifies this by saying that his "love" for Yukita was different from his love for Sakura and was caused by a magical aura. Solaire the knight (talk) 08:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)