Talk:Suzuki Alto

Indian Currency System

In India the unit of money is Rupees (IRS), which is similar to Dollar, Pound or Dirham and not Paise which is similar to Shilling, Pence or Fils. Seems like a deliberate effort to devalue the Indian Currency from the author shiju01@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.201.98 (talk) 10:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

4 gears ? haha

My suzuki alto has 5 gears plus reverse.

Possible restructuring

I think this page could do with having some detail added, which I can do - but do people think the detail about Pak Suzuki and Jiangnan should still be included, or ought they to go on new pages? (I don't mean the fact that the Alto is made by them, but rather the extra bits about factory location, the rest of their ranges etc.) AJHW 17:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd say keep separate pages, at least for the Maruti 800, because it's had such a great impact, whereas the Pak and Chinese production have come later and aren't as significant individually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.54.26 (talk) 11:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

When in doubt, separate articles for separate models / brands helps the 'Keep it Simple' requirement, which both makes the project more user friendly as a device for disseminating knowledge and avoids confusing folks with things they hadn't wished nor expected to discover. But obviously there is a critical mass 'below' which a separate article isn't justified simply because, collectively, we've nothing to write about the 'separate' - differently named, assembled some place else or whatever - variant. That can sometimes be addressed by translating the article from the wiki version of the language of the country where the different version is assembled / manufactured. In this case I know nothing about the Pak and Chinese production, but economic develpments in Asia mean that if present trends continue, maybe they're in the process of becoming more 'significant individually' - especially to wiki contributors / readers based in relevant countries. The good news, here, is that we seem already to have a willing volunteer to kick off the separate articles. Charles01 (talk) 12:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

To the question about merging the Zen article with Suzuki Alto, I would say leave it as such. The reason is, while the old Zen was a version of the Alto, teh new one isnt. And in effect, the Zen is a brand of its own in India.

As for the details, can cross link the stuff that is shared. AJ-India (talk) 17:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I, too, think the articles on the different models (particularly the Zen, which wasn't originally based on the Alto anyway) should stay separate - in most cases the models have either mechanical differences (eg Maruti 800) or differences in market scope and significance (eg Daewoo Tico). I'd be inclined to split the bits on Pak Suzuki and Jiangnan off as separate articles, since the Alto doesn't make up the whole of their production. So if the suggested merge is as a result of my suggestion, I'd like to withdraw it - and if not, I'm against it. AJHW (talk) 15:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I've now added the detail to the page. The Pak Suzuki page already has some details of the Mehran. I'm aware that the information about Jiangnan has gone; but I've taken a copy of it and I'll include it in a separate page on Jiangnan. If nobody objects by the end of the month I'll take the merge proposals off Daewoo Tico etc. AJHW (talk) 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

hello gents , HELP PLEASE anyone know the correct wiring connection to 12volt coil / ballast type and dizzy for 800cc 88model alto i lost diagram after disconnecting wires THANK YOU LES —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.114.20 (talk) 20:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge

I oppose the merge, as the Suzuki Alto is basically the Maruti 800, and NOT the Marui Alto. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the merger of Maruti Suzuki Alto with Suzuki Alto, as both are the same. The Maruti Suzuki 800 was an earlier version of the Alto, and the current Maruti Suzuki Alto was also sold as Suzuki Alto overseas, which is now replaced by what is called Maruti Suzuki A-star in India. So, the Alto is same.

I disagree with merging the Maruti Suzuki Zen with Alto, as although the first generation was a version of an Alto, the second generation, the Zen Estilo, isnt.

Thus Zen is a name plate on its own.AJ-India (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the merge. The Maruti Alto, Maruti Zen & Maruti A-Star are based on the Suzuki Alto. With a little restructuring of the Suzuki Alto Page, These can be merged. Suraj (talk) 13:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Maruti Suzuki 800,not Maruti Suzuki Zen and Maruti Suzuki Alto are all different cars and need to be treated differently. While Maruti 800 had a 799 CC engine, Alto also has the same with the exception of 1 version that has a 1.1 Litre engine similar to the one on Zen.

-Xtreme

No, both are different cars... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.68.72.129 (talk) 17:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

pari

Inches

why are the measurements put in inches? this car is not made in america or its 51st state (canada). they are the ones who use inches, and the alto is not sold there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 234234234h9787987 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Bodge Job of an article

Aside from focusing solely on the Indian models of the Suzuki Alto this article wrongly features the Nissan Pixo as the same car, it is in fact almost a rebadged Suzuki Alto with obvious styling and structural differences. I oppose the redirect to this article on that sole basis that this article doesn't even mention the Pixo and states simply that the Suzuki Alto is "also called Nissan Pixo" when in fact it isn't, they're different vehicles. Thanks Jenova20 15:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Most of this article concerns older Suzuki Alto iterations and not the Indian cars. The Pixo is simply a rebadged, Indian-built Suzuki Alto with a slightly different front. If you have more useful info on this car, feel free to add it to that section.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

words of choice

It reads "However the Alto's feels a tad better to use. The engine too is more refined and not as harsh as contemporaries." better than what; what contemporaries. Sounds a little promotional! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.240.99 (talk) 11:02, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Altos were in Pakistan only since 1988-89

The Altos were assembled and sold in Pakistan only since 1989. So, it is technically wrong to replace the 1984- models' infobox containing Gurgaon, India with Karachi, Pakistan. The SS80s were in India since 1984, being manufactured and sold in India as Maruti 800. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.220.8 (talk) 10:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

The SS80 was also sold in Pakistan as the Suzuki FX. In both cases, they were just assembled locally from CKD kits.  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

About top image

Editing by IP user (158.140.171.47) is pointless. Seventh generation Alto is already a model two generations ago and is rarely seen now.CHR52 (talk) 15:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree that the IP in question is mostly editing in vain. But, as has been stated thousands of times and is clearly expressed in WP:CARPIX, there is absolutely no need for the main pic to be of the most current generation.  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

A photo of three generations would be a better explanation. Don't you think so? The Alto entry on the Japanese Wiki, where Suzuki's headquarters is located, uses photographs of three generations. IP user's edits have no basis.CHR52 (talk) 00:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

No - please see WP:CARPIX. A high quality photo of a representative model is what is best. Logically it should be of an Alto that was sold abroad in significant numbers, but for now a good photo is all that is needed.  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:51, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

It's no use talking.

Almost 100% of the cars and industrial products on the wiki are pictures of the latest or last produced model.

If you are unhappy with that reality, you should replace all those photos too.CHR52 (talk) 04:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

If you are unhappy with WP:CARPIX I suggest you have the policy changed. Until then, there is absolutely no need for the photo to be of the most recent version. Thanks,  Mr.choppers | ✎  19:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

You are abusing the policy. You shouldn't be involved with Wikipedia.

You shouldn't be involved with Wikipedia.

You are here to fool others.

I'm applying for a write ban on you.CHR52 (talk) 00:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Apply away. WP:BRD and please refer to the agreed upon policy regarding main images.  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Quibble.

Then you should change all the pages that violate the terms.CHR52 (talk) 02:37, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

There's certainly nothing wrong with an image containing 3 generations. However, that image is of cars far away in the distance. In the thumbnail image it is almost impossible to make out any details of the cars at that distance and the overlapping of cars makes it harder again. Simply put, as-is, it is not a good image for the lead section. Perhaps if it was zoomed in and cropped then it would be passable. The single image of the 4th gen is a good image - not too much glare, background is not distracting, good angle, stock parts, clean, no rust. WP:CARPIX has no preference for any particular generation - not the latest, not the first. As long as it is a good photo (glare, background, angle, clean, size/distance, etc) then it is permissable. This policy was reached after much fighting (editors saying "MUST be the first gen", "MUST be the latest gen", "MUST be my favourite gen", "MUST be the most sales gen", etc. This policy allowed us to have an objective basis of using quality images with much less time wasting on fighting.  Stepho  talk  04:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

After some flip-flopping around with very unsuitable images, the following seem to be okay to me:

1994 silver original image

2021 blue new image

The blue one has a slightly more distracting background and the silver one has a slightly better angle (helps to make out the shape) but I could live with either image. As per WP:CARPIX, the age of the car is not a consideration for either image.  Stepho  talk  01:41, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

The blue one has a very distracting background; all I see is the people standing there. The car is in shadow while the background is well lit. The angle is subpar. To me, the '94 is by far the better picture as per the standards. The only thing that could be improved is to find one of a generation that had more of a global representation.  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)