Talk:Sussex dialect

A fact from Sussex dialect appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 April 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that "Everything in Sussex is a She except a Tom Cat and she's a He"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/April.

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Useful source for expansion

This lengthy piece, published in volume 145 of the Sussex Archaeological Collections, may provide further info for this article. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation source

The section on accent is based on a single informal 19th-century source. It might be helpful if someone with access to a suitable library could look at Sven Rubin, The Phonology of the Middle English Dialect of Sussex, Lund, 1951. --Pfold (talk) 14:06, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also: Richard Coates, The Traditional Dialect of Sussex: A Historical Guide, Description, Selected Texts, Bibliography and Discography, Pomegranate Press, 2010. --Pfold (talk) 14:23, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unlikely to get to a library in the near future, but according to the West Sussex Libraries catalogue Rubin (1951) is available in the Local Studies section of Worthing Reference Library (not for loan), while Coates (2010) is available for loan in Crawley, Horsham and Worthing. I haven't checked East Sussex or Brighton and Hove yet. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:45, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Coates is also in Lewes and Brighton.--Pfold (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge elsewhere?

The sources on this page include a variety of informal descriptions or eye-dialect representations of a 19th-century Sussex dialect, often with no page numbers provided. What's missing is precise descriptions or details from actual and credible linguistic sources of any kind. The section on accent features is almost entirely relies on a single source from 1875 that is focused on lexical features ("provincialisms") without any commentary on accent whatsoever and without page specifics; beyond that, this section is hard to read, only somewhat following Wikipedia IPA conventions. Other sections of the page are baffling in terms of both sourcing and meaning. Can this whole article go somewhere else? (Perhaps this info, plus Estuary English#Traditional Essex and Kent, can be moved to English language in southern England.) Wolfdog (talk) 13:52, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This now appears to have been done (presumably by you?) but what this effectively means is that an entire article full of information, much of it valuable, has been deleted and replaced with a redirect to a single, brief paragraph in a much larger article. Disturbingly, this appears to have been done without any discussion, agreement or consensus. Antonine (talk) 20:25, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have now undone the deletion (and replacement with a redirect) of this article. If it is going to be merged into English language in southern England then it should be a properly proposed merger and should involve actually merging content, not deleting and replacing with a redirect. I will update this article's See Also to link to English language in southern England and I will update that page itself to link back to this article. As far as I can tell the deletion of this article appears to be a case of well-intentioned vandalism. Antonine (talk) 20:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for waiting two years to respond to me and then having the gall to seem offended and act like I behaved unilaterally. Lol. Perhaps in the next few days I'll set up the proposed merger and we can get a consensus from the community. Wolfdog (talk) 12:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]