Talk:Sunken lane

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Some distinction needs to be made between such things as cuttings, and the subject of the article. Without refs in the article body, I am not sure how to do it. SovalValtos (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A cutting is one possible way a sunken lane could be created; erosion is another: these are thus mechanisms of formation of the sunken lane, the topic of the article. There is no reason at all why a mechanism for something should not be discussed as part of an article, indeed it is often necessary. Of course citations are needed; but here as elsewhere, much old material remains uncited. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have not made things clear. The Lead (the subject of this section) makes a summary of the article by saying it 'is a road which is significantly lower than the land on either side'. Not all roads lower than the land on either side are sunken lanes. Various autobahns or motorways have cuttings, but at least no authority I have found, class them as sunken lanes. A clearer definition is needed, correctly cited. PS I liked your edits! SovalValtos (talk) 19:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Syria

The ref seems to refer to hollow ways up to 1.5 m deep. Perhaps not quite what concerns this article. SovalValtos (talk) 19:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? They can easily be deeper than that, see the photos of lanes in England. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. 1-4 feet deep is not the mainstream of the article. The mainstream is deeper. Not only can they be easily deeper, but usually are, to be described as such. The thousands of miles in Syria seem only called sunken lanes in a technical meaning by a researcher, being only 1-4 feet deep. I have looked again at the photos of lanes in England, in fact I took some of them, so I know what you are talking about and would like to point out my interest. SovalValtos (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not convinced. Sunken means just that, down a bit. Whether it's a little or a lot is just a matter of degree. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]