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Added "dangerous" and CN for "dawn and dusk" in S1

While most sites advocating this quackery recommend dawn and dusk (it is often less physically painful, bypassing the body's warning that you are doing a Very Dumb Thing), sungazing itself is simply... sungazing. Need a CN source for the Dawn and Dusk definition, rather than recommendation by quacks. I'll remove the unsourced text in the next couple of days if no source. Any objection to the "dangerous", we can move the citation directly to the word.Shajure (talk) 20:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

restored "dangerous" as it is sourced in the body, and removed "dawn and dusk" as it is not, and no one provided a source.Shajure (talk) 20:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

moved the dawn and dusk down to sentence about common practice, where it is supported by some of the sources.Shajure (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Long, slow POV push that this practice is not dangerous continues. Restored dangerous again.Shajure (talk) 19:35, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Harmful vs. Dangerous. Well... to me, dangerous is less "intense" than harmful. I don't know that there are studies that show it is harmful... that it always does harm. But there are studies that it is dangerous... there is a danger of harm.Shajure (talk) 02:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dangerous? Yes remove. This “quack has been sungazing for a year now and my vision has improved. Yes, improved I went from a prescription of -6.75 to a -6.25. Even my ophthalmologist was stunned. He made a comment that whoever must’ve done my last prescription did it wrong and my reply was I looked at him and told him that my last prescription was from him because it was, and he looked astounded. So the dangerous speak of I’m not really sure what you’re talking about is it is only filled and uplifted my life. 2603:9000:6301:121D:382F:BF50:2253:75A4 (talk) 15:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Wikipedia editors are way too mild when handling quackery

A recent unsigned comment was removed in archiving old text. Adding it back.

"The original poster has obviously never sun gazed and knows nothing about it. If you are sun gazing and experience any of the symptoms described in this post you are supposed to stop immediately as the sun is too bright. This can happen sometimes from glare off the water for instance. Sungazers actually rely on their bodies natural defenses and listen to them - if you are sun gazing and the brightness is making you in any way uncomfortable, stop. If you are doing it properly - the first or last hour of the day - this rarely happens." This was an unsigned comment by IP user 66.117.193.162 Shajure (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"dangerous"

An interested editor suggested "harmful", but it is only sometimes harmful. Should we say "sometimes harmful"? Something else? That is directly supported by the multiple sources. I thought "dangerous" was good, but the "harmful" suggestion struck me. There is a steady POV push that "if you do it right it is safe"... well that is great just need a wp:RS that says when it is safe and it can be added to the body. And there isn't one.Shajure (talk) 04:33, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noticed the word Dangerous is inserted in the first sentence. Seems very POV. It’s been continuously removed since it’s been up there, why should it be there? It seems Sungazers and most people are well aware the medical industry and mainstream science advise against this and Sungazers do it anyways. 190.219.147.16 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a source that says this is alternative medicine?

~~I would say it belongs in spiritual or religious practices, rather than AM, unless there is a source~~.Shajure (talk) 08:49, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is. And it is in the article. *blink* Time to sleep. Pay no mind.Shajure (talk)