Talk:Sumarr and Vetr

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October 6, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 19, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in Norse mythology, Sumarr and Vetr are the personified seasons of summer and winter?

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The Vafþrúðnismál material

Bellows throws some light on this, the two extra lines in Thorpe are translations of lines from late paper manuscripts.[1] This may be worth mentioning in the article (since there isn't much else to mention). What Bellows calls "the Arnamagnæan Codex" is what we call AM 748 I 4to. I still think that "first" is fairly meaningless, I understand the question as: "From where did they first come?" Haukur (talk) 10:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So as far as we know so far "yearly they both shall ever journey, until the powers perish" in stanza 27 originates from manuscript AM 748 I 4to? :bloodofox: (talk) 08:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(We discussed this via IM but I thought I'd leave a note here for the record) It's not in AM 748, all I can find is that it's in "late paper manuscripts" - I wish the editions were more specific. Haukur (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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While a smallish subject, the coverage seems comprehensive, and is well-written and appropriately sourced. I see no reason whatsoever why this should not pass.

I'm taking the following on faith:

No relevant references are known outside of the Eddas
Vindsvalr and Svásuðr have no further known information than what is given here.

From my basic knowledge of Norse myth, these seem likely to be true, hence, pass. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! You are correct about the personifications, as otherwise the connection is not evident and can only be theorized on (as strong as some of these theories may be). Vindsvalr and Svásuðr probably deserve their own articles for any further treatment, as more could be said (though not much) and this is the only source that connects directly with their children. :bloodofox: (talk) 08:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest adding a little bit about Vindsvalr and Svásuðr in here - when there's only a small amount that can be said, "on-topic" stretches a bit further =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]