Talk:Subsurface (software)
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[edit]- If it was designed and developed in 2011, how can it be running on the Suunto Mosquito and other dive computers released years earlier. I am not sure, but I think the Mosquito was discontinued at about 2011.
- A dive computer does not cease to exist and be used just because its manufacturer discontinues it as a product. In fact it is one of the most important features of Subsurface to support dive computers that manufacturers do not care to support anymore... --217.11.197.10 (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- As far as I know, the Mosquito does not have a facility for the user to upgrade software. As far as I know the software it is supplied with is what you are stuck with. I am using one that as far as I know has the original software, and I have never been informed that an upgrade is possible. As I purchased it before 2011, I must assume that it is not running Subsurface software. Do you have any reference stating when the Mosquito was changed to Subsurface software? • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- I may have misunderstood the article. I understood it to mean the software was run on the computers listed, but now understand it is software that uses output downloaded from those dive computers. Am I correct in this assumption? This should be clarified in the article. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed, Subsurface was always meant to process data downloaded from dive computers, and not meant to replace any firmware running on the dive computer itself. --212.255.113.25 (talk) 22:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- I may have misunderstood the article. I understood it to mean the software was run on the computers listed, but now understand it is software that uses output downloaded from those dive computers. Am I correct in this assumption? This should be clarified in the article. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- As far as I know, the Mosquito does not have a facility for the user to upgrade software. As far as I know the software it is supplied with is what you are stuck with. I am using one that as far as I know has the original software, and I have never been informed that an upgrade is possible. As I purchased it before 2011, I must assume that it is not running Subsurface software. Do you have any reference stating when the Mosquito was changed to Subsurface software? • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- A dive computer does not cease to exist and be used just because its manufacturer discontinues it as a product. In fact it is one of the most important features of Subsurface to support dive computers that manufacturers do not care to support anymore... --217.11.197.10 (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- To get from design and development in 2011 to version 4 in 2014 seems a bit unlikely. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:57, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- That's a strange allegation: The source code repository has always been public so you can verify what version was there with what features at what time, see: [1] for the start of the revision history, you can click through the past history until 2011 there. --217.11.197.10 (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- I didn't say impossible, but that is a full version upgrade per year, which seems unusual to me. I am unfamiliar with logs such as the one you link to, and do not know how to find the release date for version 1. It states that this was 2 years ago, which would be 2012,but it also looks like it was some time in September 2011. Anyway, it does look like the versions have progressed from 1 to 4 in the time scale specified. Unfortunately I don't know how to cite this. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- That's a strange allegation: The source code repository has always been public so you can verify what version was there with what features at what time, see: [1] for the start of the revision history, you can click through the past history until 2011 there. --217.11.197.10 (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- The article currently complains that the Wiki page "promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information" - what sentence does contain something you would call a "subjective promotion"?. Also, the complaint about "article relies on references to primary sources" is strange in this case: The article does not state any opinion or interpretation of anything. It is just providing simple facts, which, of course, could also be read from articles others published on the existence of Subsurface or one of its updates - but those articles usually don't state opinions, either. --217.11.197.10 (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- I can't explain that. Those are not my templates. Perhaps User:McDoobAU93 could explain. It does seem inappropriate considering the content of the article at the date the template was added. I will request an explanation. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- The main reason I tagged it was as it was promoting its subject, not explaining why it was noteworthy and, thus, why it should have an article devoted to it. I may have selected the wrong template at the time. Regardless of the template, if you feel it doesn't belong anymore (i.e., the issues mentioned in the tag no longer exist), feel free to remove it. --McDoobAU93 03:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- I can't explain that. Those are not my templates. Perhaps User:McDoobAU93 could explain. It does seem inappropriate considering the content of the article at the date the template was added. I will request an explanation. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Why the KDE navbox?
[edit]Subsurface does not appear in the navbox and it is not clear how the navbox is relevant to the topic. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)