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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Nominator: Leafy46 (talk · contribs) 02:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Riley1012 (talk · contribs) 18:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I will complete a review within one week. -Riley1012 (talk) 18:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! Unfortunately, I'm traveling internationally relatively soon, and thus I may be unable to immediately respond to any specific reviews. However, I'll do my best to address any problems that I can when I can. Especially since this is my first ever nomination, please be patient with me! Leafy46 (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, no worries! -Riley1012 (talk) 02:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I have looked through Talk:Still Breathing (Green Day song)/GA1 and believe all the comments from this initial review have been addressed, so thank you for that. Here are some new comments with my improvement suggestions are in bullet points:

1. Well-written

  • Per MOS:LQ, punctuation marks for sentence fragments should come after quotation marks. There are some instances in the article where this is done correctly and others where it is wrong- make it consistent. -- Done
  • "Still Breathing" was released as the third single of Revolution Radio on September 23, 2016 through a lyric video published to YouTube... Add a comma after "2016", and change "to YouTube" to "on YouTube". -- Changed sentence structure altogether to: "Still Breathing" was released on September 23, 2016 as the third single of Revolution Radio through a lyric video published on YouTube, and was made available for digital download the same day.
  • Andy Greene of Rolling Stone commented that the lyrics seemed to reflect Armstrong's personal struggles, however Armstrong responded that he avoided introspection when writing the song's lyrics in lieu of "mak[ing] people happy" and "creat[ing] a difference in some way, just by people recognizing themselves in the song." What are the "personal struggles" being referred to here? I'm assuming it's addiction based on other sources (ex: 30), but I would add brief context. Split the sentence before "however", and add a comma after "however". Note this is one example where the period should come after the quotation marks. -- Done
  • Add something from the live performances section to the lead, something along the lines of Green Day performed "Still Breathing" on the Revolution Radio Tour... -- Done

2. Verifiable
The article uses reliable sources. Copyvio detector is highlighting a properly-attributed quote.

  • Some sources mention the song as the third single (ex) while others say it's the second (ex), could there be some clarification? -- See below or article's talk page
  • 36 seems to be the incorrect source- this is the Canada charts but is supposed to cite US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs. -- Done
  • 38 and 55 need to be combined using a ref. name instead of being listed twice separately. Same with 40 and 55 and others listed in both the Chart performance and Charts sections. -- Done
    Spot check
    No issues: 2, 7, 9, 11, 17, 22, 30, 33, 40, 46, 53, 65, 71

3. Broad
The article covers all major aspects of the song and stays focused on the topic.

4. Neutral
The article is neutral.

5. Stable
The article is stable day-to-day, and there are no content disputes.

6. Illustrated
The cover art and audio have non-free use rationale.

@Leafy46: Thank you for fixing the issues brought up in the failed review. I have a few more comments for you to address when you're back from your travels. -Riley1012 (talk) 19:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the review! I'll get along to fixing the page up (I was honestly worried it'd be a *lot* more since it's my first time around lol).
In regards to your first point on Verifiable about the song being a second or third single, I also faced the same dilemma due to contradicting sources -- I believe that the difference comes from differing definitions of what constitutes a "single." I decided to treat "Still Breathing" as the third single because of the "New Releases" page of the Official Charts Company, the process of which I outlined on the talk page of the article. While I suppose this counts a bit as original research, it is easily verifiable and the only way in which I could definitively make the call given it's probably impractical to figure out why sources say various things. Hopefully this is enough? Let me know if you think it needs something more in the article. Leafy46 (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Riley1012: Forgot to ping, sorry! Leafy46 (talk) 00:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Leafy46: Okay, thanks for pointing out the talk page discussion. Could you add a footnote with this information citing the Official Charts Company after "Still Breathing" was released as the third single of Revolution Radio on September 23, 2016,? -Riley1012 (talk) 11:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Riley1012: With that added note, I believe that I've fixed everything you've pointed out. Is there anything else which requires attention? Leafy46 (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Leafy46: Looks good now, I will pass. -Riley1012 (talk) 16:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.