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Automated steering

I did not found the word automated in the page.

However, automated steering might exist when a classification of those automated steering functions exist.

European union, Japan, Russia, United Kingdom and other territories follow UNECE 79 regulation (see list of countries in https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2021-02/ECE-TRANS-WP.29-343-Rev.29-Add.1.pdf ) which classifies automatically commanded steering functions:

Category A function helps the driver at speed no greater than 10 km/h for parking maneuvering;
Category B1 function helps the driver to keep the vehicle within the chosen lane;
Category B2 function "keeps the vehicle within its lane by influencing the lateral movement of the vehicle for extended periods without further driver command/confirmation";
Category C and D and E are related to specific manoeuvres such as lane change (see category descriptions in http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/2018/R079r4e.pdf )

Some words, a link or a paragraph should provide some relevant pieces of information related to automated steering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.215.10 (talk • contribs) 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Overreliance on primay sources and general lack of sources

Much of the article relies on primary sources such as websites of automakers: ZF, BMW, Renault, Porsche, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Thrust... Pretty much everything before the steer-by-wire section is reliant on primary sources, and everything after it is unsourced. HueSurname (talk) 02:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The idiotic photo of a bike with training wheels.

ref https://repository.si.edu/handle/10088/2423 pp1-7 does not say bicycle steering is primarily via turning the handlebars. Greglocock (talk) 05:12, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it doesn't. As for how a bicycles actually steers, see Bicycle and motorcycle dynamics for a reasonable explanation of the complex dynamics involved. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two “Steer by Wire” sections, Inaccurate Cybertruck Statements

In the first “Steer by Wire” section, the article states that Tesla’s Cybertruck is the first automotive vehicle to enter production with steer by wire in place, despite the section “Steer by Wire” section detailing that the Infiniti Q50 and Q60 have had steer by wire since 2013. The second section also mentions the Lexus RZ 450e and Toyota bZ4X also having it since 2022 or so. Vehicles with rear-wheel steering also used steer by wire prior to those.

It also seems unnecessary to include the Cybertruck in the “speed-sensitive steering” category, considering the technology has been in place for quite some time and the Cybertruck doesn’t add anything particularly notable in the space. Kevinsja (talk) 04:22, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to split the article

The classical automotive steering mechanism is only one specific item of the topic "steering", but it takes most of the article. The other types of steering (aircraft, rocket, ship, bicycle, caterpillar) cannot get a similar level of treatment here.
The article should be split, making each section into a separate article, and leaving here only little more than a disamb page. The bulk of this article should become car steering system or something like that. Jorge Stolfi (talk) 15:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]