Talk:Statutes Fair
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 00:18, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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Part of the fair in 2008
- ... that the Statutes Fair in Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire has been held annually since 1219? " In Burton the Statutes will be in its 802nd year in 2021." from: Kreft, Helen (7 October 2020). "Just one ride at town's funfair to ensure royal charter continues". DerbyshireLive. Retrieved 7 October 2021.
- ALT1:... that the Statutes amusements fair in Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire developed as a means to persuade newly contracted employees to spend their first shillings? "When an agreement had been made between and employer and an employee, the employer would give a small token of money, usually a shilling, which fastened the contract for a year.Later, stalls were set up at the fairs selling food and drink or games to play to tempt employees to spend their token money." from: Pridding, Beth (28 September 2018). "Everything you need to know about this year's Burton Statutes Fair". DerbyshireLive. Retrieved 7 October 2021.
- ALT2:... that a single ride was provided at the 2020 Statutes Fair to maintain the continuity of the 800-year-old annual event through the Covid-19 pandemic?"Just one token children's ride was set and operating in the town so there was a presence in the Market Place to ensure an 800-year-old charter was not broken." from: Kreft, Helen (7 October 2020). "Just one ride at town's funfair to ensure royal charter continues". DerbyshireLive. Retrieved 7 October 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 14:21, 8 October 2021 (UTC).
- Comment:
According to the article the 802nd anniversary is on October 29th, could we mark it as a special occasion DYK?JeffUK (talk) 17:36, 9 October 2021 (UTC)- Hi JeffUK, it's held on the first Monday and Tuesday after Michaelmas (29 September), so this year was held on 4 and 5 October. The 29 October date mentioned in the article is for the cheese and horse fair granted by King John. It is mentioned as it is one of the fairs authorised by statute, whilst the Statutes Fair, confusingly, has no known statute authorising it - Dumelow (talk) 18:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
I think original hook is by far the most interesting - cited and faithful to source, size, age, reffing, QPQ all pass. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi JeffUK, it's held on the first Monday and Tuesday after Michaelmas (29 September), so this year was held on 4 and 5 October. The 29 October date mentioned in the article is for the cheese and horse fair granted by King John. It is mentioned as it is one of the fairs authorised by statute, whilst the Statutes Fair, confusingly, has no known statute authorising it - Dumelow (talk) 18:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Slightly modified ALT0 to T:DYK/P7
“Statutes”
[edit]Like other hiring fairs (some of which are also know as “statute” or “statutes” fairs) I expect the name is referring to the 1351 Statute of Labourers and the 1562 Statute of Apprentices and subsequent legislation, not specific legislation for this particular fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.226.79 (talk) 13:22, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but we can only report what the sources say - Dumelow (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Dumelow, wonderful work as usual. When trying to pull up references to this fair in early publications, I've come across several references to a statute fair held at Repton on the first Monday after Michaelmas (eg [1]). Google tells me that it takes around 1.5 hours to walk from Burton upon Trent to Repton (using the current roads, of course). Is it possible that the fair moved from one town to the other at some point? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 14:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi AleatoryPonderings, thankyou. Could be, but I suspect they'll have been separate (I think I read somewhere that the statutes/hiring and mop fairs were held in each hundred so it would be unusual if they were moved across county lines). Appears to be a neglected part of local history though, would be great to see a research paper or two on this subject - Dumelow (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)