Talk:Stanford University centers and institutes

Mixing apples with oranges

I'm not quite sure what to do with this page as it is mixing up a variety of organizations and is not linking across to some with their own pages (many of which could frankly be integrated in or don't even count as notable as they are no more than a couple of lines). --Erp (talk) 06:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

References

Someone please delete the duplicate reference, listed as "1" at the end of the section. I try to remove it, but end up deleting the entire section. That ref btw is already included at 5. ~Andarin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andarin (talk • contribs) 18:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

fixed.--Erp (talk) 00:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Hopkins and Jasper

I unmerged Hopkins Marine Station and Jasper Ridge Biological Preserve as they do not really belong in this article. No discussion took place when they were merged in--Erp (talk) 01:14, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Distinguished Careers Institute, does it belong here

I'm not sure this belongs here and certainly not, I think, in the first category (I can't find it under the Dean of Research listing). Does anyone know organizationally where DCI goes in the university? Is it continuing studies or somewhere else? --Erp (talk) 04:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

About the See also listing of the Hoover Institution

I disagree with the current entry for Hoover Institution under "See also". For some years now it has said "Hoover Institution , a conservative think tank which is affiliated with Stanford University. The Hoover Institution staffed numerous positions in the Trump administration." That is totally inappropriate. The Hoover Institution has existed for more than 100 years. Its claim to fame is not about the Trump administration; that is a blatant violation of WP:Recentism. Someone recently removed the Trump administration mention and added other information; that editor was blocked for block evasion, and their edit was reverted to the longstanding version. But IMO they had the right idea. The Hoover Institution is NOT primarily known for providing staff for Trump! Throughout Hoover's 100 years of existence many Hoover fellows have been given prominent positions in various administrations; see, for example, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice in the George W. Bush administration. To top off the inappropriateness of the Trump claim, it isn't even supported by the attached reference! I propose that the reference to the Trump administration be removed from the "See also" description. It should simply say that the Hoover Institution is a think tank affiliated with Stanford. Pinging some people who have recently edited this article: @ToBeFree, Rjensen, CamphorLaurel, and Kaltenmeyer: MelanieN (talk) 00:44, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi MelanieN, thanks for the ping. My only concern was block evasion, which I generally undo. I have now removed the entry entirely and lack any opinion about if and how it should be restored. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

The Hoover Institution is primarily known for conservatism and staffing of GOP presidential administrations. That continued under Trump--which happened in 2017, six years ago is not "recentism" it's history. For decades Hoover's right wing role has been controversial on the Stanford campus. For recent scholarly coverage of this theme see Val Burris, "The interlock structure of the policy-planning network and the right turn in US state policy." in Politics and public policy (2008) pp. 3-42. According to James Everett Hein, and J. Craig Jenkins. "Why does the United States lack a global warming policy? The corporate inner circle versus public interest sector elites." Environmental Politics 26.1 (2017): 97-117, " three of our anti-global warming think tanks (AEI, Hoover and Heritage) are in this ultraconservative group." According to Nana De Graaff, and Bastiaan Van Apeldoorn, "The transnationalist US foreign‐policy elite in exile? A comparative network analysis of the Trump administration." Global Networks 21.2 (2021): 238-264, regarding conservative experts-in-exile who worked for Trump, "the conservative Hoover Institution is another shared affiliation." Rjensen (talk) 04:24, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Staffing of GOP administrations, yes. Trump in particular, no. The Republican connection has gone on for decades. The reference to the Trump administration was added on November 16, 2020 - at the very end of the Trump administration - and was never challenged. But it is at best misleading, as if Trump's was the only Republican administration to recruit Hoover fellows. According to the Hoover Institution article, "more than thirty current or former Hoover Institution fellows worked for the Reagan administration."

For years prior to the Trump addition, the description here read "Hoover Institution, a public policy think tank and library founded in 1919 by U.S. president Herbert Hoover. It has a great degree of independence from the University, though on the same campus." I liked that version, but I can accept the well researched current revision by Rjensen, which makes clear that the Institution supported all recent Republican administrations, not just Trump. -- MelanieN (talk) 04:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)