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There should be a discussion here about how Standpoint theory comes from Hagel and Marx.

Yes, and just like Marxist claims that the proletariat have more complete knowledge as oppressed people, standpoint theorists claim that women (as well as other marginalized groups) have more complete knowledge as well, being able to their own view and that of the oppressor, whereas the oppressor can only see their own view. Donna Haraway writes about situated knowledge, but does not prescribe the idea of a hierarchy of knowledge where any group's knowledge is more complete. Because of that, I'm removing her from this list. Louco coitado 07:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Louco, please stop deleting Donna Haraway. Her name appears frequently in lists of major standpoint theorists. From the back cover of The Feminist Standpoint Theory Reader:

“ Leading feminist scholar and one of the founders of Standpoint Theory, Sandra Harding, brings together the biggest names in the field — Dorothy Smith, Donna Haraway, Patricia Hill Collins, Nancy Hartsock and Hilary Rose — to not only showcase the most influential essays on the topic but to also highlight subsequent interrogations and developments of these approaches from a wide variety of disciplines and intellectual and political positions. ”

You might be right that by a superior definition of standpoint theory and a superior analysis of Donna Haraway's writings, she is not a true standpoint theorist, but Wikipedia is not the place to argue the case. Thanks. —Ben Kovitz (talk) 18:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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Delete reference to Tina Campt?

For an encyclopedic entry, this line tagged on the end seems fairly out of place: "Tina Campt uses standpoint theory to examine the narrative of the Afro-German Hans Hauck in her book Other Germans"

Sexism and racism are discussed, but what about ageism? 69.174.171.59 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC).

Cleanup

This article contains relevant information and a solid list of sources, but the writing style reads like a draft rather than a finished article. Please help clean up the language, syntax, and sentence structure. Many of the phrases could be shortened or left out. Also, standpoint theory is widely used in critical philosophy and so would best be categorized as philosophy or political philosophy. Thanks, everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.120.69.108 (talk) 15:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed the article is an appalling mess. For example: "Knowledge helps us understand part of the world that we normally tend to not understand." That sounds like someone was writing without something to say. I think this happened because a high-school class was assigned to edit this page, as noted above. Here's what they did. However, this is how wikis work. People make changes, providing new material but often in a very flawed form. Other people then improve the page by fixing the flaws and building on whatever good was in the earlier edits. In the process, they probably will introduce new flaws, and on it goes. Please see WP:NOTDONE. You are invited to clean up the current mess, however much you care to. Every little bit helps. (Apologies if you already know all this; many people don't.) —Ben Kovitz (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Concentrates too much Western perspective?

What, for example, are the contributions of South Asian and East Asian theorists? What role does the idea of white male privilege play in countries where there few or no white males? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:52DA:3100:F848:A630:9AC0:A027 (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi! I'm a new editor participating in a Wiki Education program. I'm copying part of this article into my sandbox to work on making it less technical. I'll return the edits here. Thanks for any suggestions or help offered. This is my first attempt at editing more than a punctuation mark. Amyjoomaha (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

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As it is stated at the very beginning of the Standpoint Theory Wikipedia page, “this article may be too technical for most readers to understand.” There are few diagrams to help the non-academic audiences to understand the theory, which may lead to the loss of their attention and interests, though previous editors made efforts on providing examples in the introduction. Unlike other Wikipedia pages about theories, Standpoint one utilizes fewer references in the Applications part, which, from my point of view, needs more efforts to select papers and complement the fundamental theory part. I literally appreciate the work you are doing on this page because of the efforts you are contributing to helping people understand the amazing theory.

I choose two references and sincerely hope they can help.

Gilroy, J., & Donelly, M. (2016). Australian indigenous people with disability: Ethics and standpoint theory. In Disability in the Global South (pp. 545-566). Springer, Cham.

Medina-Minton, N. (2019). Are Children an Oppressed Group? Positing a Child Standpoint Theory. Child and Adolescent Social Work Journal, 36(5), 439-447.

Alasap412 (talk) 15:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Confused about lead paragraph

The second sentence of the lead paragraph reads, This body of work proposes that authority is rooted in individuals' ... perspectives ... and the power that such authority exerts. This seems entirely circular. A quick Ctrl+F search of the article yields discussions of power relations; is that what this is alluding to? Is there a missing verb, e.g. This body of work proposes that authority is rooted in [X], and examines the power that such authority exerts? Only I can't find any further explanation of how an individual's perspectives might grant them actual power. Any help would be appreciated. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 08:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the claim being edit warred over:

This journal article from the Dhaulagiri Journal of Sociology & Anthropology appears to support that specific claim. I am not familiar with the subject, but it seems like it could be used as a source for that claim. Padgriffin ^{Griffin's Nest} 04:06, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for looking; might be useful for working into the rest of the parts of the article that are uncited. I think there needs to be more explanation about what's wrong with that graf to justify a graf deletion (more than just that "it's an opinion", since this the lead and I thought it was a fine summary/explanation of contents of the article). I've taken a stab at an edit, with a citation to the Britannica page that was already in the references section. —Wingedserif (talk) 10:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

References

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The article is well structured, organized and cited. At the top of the page, there is a recommendation, from Wikipedia, not to delete the page. This is because the content of Standpoint Theory is used as an important part of Standpoint Feminism Theory. The lead section in this article could be improved. It should summarize the whole content of the article with less details. Structurally, the headings are consistent but the article lacks some supporting visual images. Adding these images, especially to the “Key Concepts” section, would improve the quality. The article is well linked to other Wikipedia pages. Organizationally, the section transitions complement each other and provide a broad information of this important theory. However, I would categorize the “Applications” section and give some useful examples. I would mention refugees, as one of the marginalized groups, and bring to the article some supporting sources on how refugees’ perceptions are reshaped when their social and political experiences change. CD1074 (talk) 10:56, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Identical Citations

Citations 9 and 29 appear to be the same. Is there any reason for this? - Yingtao Hanbao (talk) 22:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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This page has been organized structurally in its historic, conceptual, and practical sections which are arranged thoroughly but not redundant. And there are plenty of citations, especially for Wikipedia-linked citations.

To provide some further improving advice, adding more applications other than gender (especially familism) can supplement and update the latest academic focus on standpoint theory because standpoint feminism serves as another independent Wikipedia page. For example, children and colored groups could be researched under the standpoint theory. I list some alternative readings for further usage:

Camille, W. C. (2003). The detrimental impact of teacher bias: Lessons learned from the standpoint of african american mothers. Teacher Education Quarterly, 30(2), 101-116. Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/scholarly-journals/detrimental-impact-teacher-bias-lessons-learned/docview/222878167/se-2

           This paper research educational inequitable in the marginalized environment of an African female group.

Medina-Minton, N. (2019). Are Children an Oppressed Group? Positing a Child Standpoint Theory. Child & Adolescent Social Work Journal, 36(5), 439–447. https://doi-org.proxy.library.georgetown.edu/10.1007/s10560-018-0579-8

           This paper combines the oppressed phenomenon of children with standpoint theory, and frequently raises the concept of “Child standpoint theory (CST)”. Srk2310 (talk) 09:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

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"Militarism"? -or "militancy"?

Under the heading "Criticisms", in the second paragraph the fourth (and final) sentence states "Intentional overbalance of power, or revenge, can manifest as justification for extremism and militarism, which can sometimes be seen in more extreme forms of feminism" (emphasis added). It seems to me that in this context the word they were intending to use was "militancy". I am unaware of any examples of a nexus of feminism and militarism. Any objections to my changing this to "militancy"? Bricology (talk) 11:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hi there! This is a student from Georgetown University, and I have been assigned to do a peer review on this page. This Wikipedia page describes the origins, construction and evolution of the theory. As a highly subjective and controversial theory, this page also leads to other further refinements of the theory, such as Martin Nakata 's Indigenous standpoint theory, which ensures that the researcher maintains relative objectivity, and that the application of the theory respects and protects the ideology and behavioral patterns of those who express the “subjective” standpoint. The “subjective” standpoint expresses the ideology and behavioral patterns of the person. Other than this, I think the page could be improved in the following ways:

1: Further improvements could include the addition of charts, diagrams, or timelines, which would provide a more visual representation of the evolution of positional theory, especially the various versions and application scenarios over time. For example, a visualization showing the origins of the theory, the major contributors, and the relationships between the refined sub-theories could help readers more clearly understand how standpoint theory has evolved from its origins to its development into multiple schools of thought.

2: This theory is controversial because of its emphasis on unique intergroup perspectives and has been criticized for its lack of scientific objectivity due to its “subjectivity.” This page could present the strengths and weaknesses of standpoint theory more systematically by adding more dualistic analytical frameworks. For this section, consider Alison Wylie's “Why Standpoint Matters.” In this scholarly journal, she discusses the importance of standpoint theory in the philosophy of science and analyzes how different standpoints affect knowledge production. She also mentions the controversial nature of theories, especially the balance between subjectivity and scientific objectivity.

Wylie, A. (2012). Feminist Philosophy of Science: Standpoint Matters. Proceedings and Addresses of the American Philosophical Association, 86(2), 47–76. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43661298

3: Standpoint theory has been applied in numerous cultural contexts, such as minority studies, colonial studies, and gender studies. However, this page currently lacks a detailed discussion of these specific applications. Specific examples of how standpoint theory has been applied in different cultural contexts could be added. Trevzt (talk) 22:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Standpoint Theory is often applied in gender and migration studies. For instance, Nancy Hartsock’s work explores the different treatment women experience in the workplace due to their gendered standpoint. Similarly, Sara Ahmed uses this theory in her research to analyze the adaptation and identity conflicts faced by immigrants in foreign countries.

Hartsock, N. (1983). The Feminist Standpoint: Developing the Ground for a Specifically Feminist Historical Materialism. In S. Harding & M. B. Hintikka (Eds.), Discovering Reality (pp. 283–310). Dordrecht: Springer.

Ahmed, S. (2000). Strange Encounters: Embodied Others in Post-Coloniality. Routledge. Chenhao Duan (talk) 10:38, 1 November 2024 (UTC)