Talk:St Martin's Church, Bladon

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Should this be moved to (renamed) St. Martin's Church, Bladon? This would then tie up with the first line of the introduction. However, there are 13 links that will need to be fixed. EdJogg 02:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Yes it should be moved -- looks illiterate as is! I think correct syntax is St Martin's Church, Bladon without the full point after "St". --mervyn 14:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syntax is an interesting point – to dot or not to dot?. Many discussions have taken place, including:

But the nearest to any form of concensus is at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Western clergy)#Buildings named after people, which used to suggest that a dot should be used after 'St' in an article title yet pointed to two articles whose titles omitted it! However, a quick look at the Index Search results suggests that there are more articles 'without' than 'with'... ...so I've just been BOLD and corrected it! EdJogg 16:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, consensus seems to be moving to "no dot" -- eg the churches in [Category:Churches in Oxford]. I see that Hart's Rules p.2 says no full point after St for Saint, but use one after St. for street. --mervyn 17:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The difference here (as I've seen mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia) is that St uses the first and last letters of Saint, while St. is a definite abbreviation, or shortening, of Street, and hence the full-stop is appropriate. EdJogg 13:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page Moved

As per suggestions above, page has been retitled (moved). Your assistance would be welcome in updating the several pages that still use the old name. EdJogg 13:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links now fixed -- good work all!! --mervyn 18:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At Bladon Poem

I can't help but noticing the errant apostrophe in the first line of the poem. Does anyone have a source which includes this, or can we assume that it is a transcription error, from, for instance, the recording of Richard Dimbleby reading it at the end of the BBC's broadcast of Churchill's funeral?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/churchill/11026.shtml - (1:07:35)