Talk:St. Patrick's Old Cathedral
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Abortion rights protests
[edit]I recently trimmed a paragraph relating to a May 2022 abortion-rights protest at this basilica. The text before my edit read:
On May 7, 2022, following the leak of a U.S. Supreme Court draft opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which purported to overturn Roe v. Wade, the basilica was surrounded by left-wing and pro-abortion protesters who chanted anti-Catholic slogans and shouted expletives at parishioners and anti-abortion activists, who stood in front of the cathedral doors praying the rosary, preventing protesters from entering the basilica.[1] The incident was one of many threats and protests against Catholic churches by left-wing groups throughout the United States in the aftermath of the leaked draft opinion.[2]
The text afterward read:
On May 7, 2022, following the leak of a U.S. Supreme Court draft opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization (which purported to overturn Roe v. Wade), anti-Catholic and abortion-rights protesters demonstrated outside the basilica.[3]
References
- ^ "Updated on Mother's Day Threats: New Incidents Reported". National Catholic Register. May 8, 2022.
- ^ Palmer, Ewan (May 6, 2022). "Why Are Catholics Under Fire Over Roe V. Wade?". Newsweek.
- ^ Bocanegra, Michelle (May 7, 2022). "Abortion-rights activists block downtown church group's monthly anti-abortion action". Gothamist. Retrieved June 30, 2022.
This was reverted today by at least one IP editor who claimed that Gothamist is not a neutral source. There are a few problems with this reversion, however.
- Given this basilica's long history, having a full paragraph about the protest gives undue weight to this one protest. In fact, the specific details of the protest are not really relevant as this event did not have a lasting impact on the basilica's operation.
- It seems a bit biased to link Abortion-rights movements with the text "pro-abortion". The article Anti-abortion movements is linked, but with the more straightforward text "anti-abortion". Admittedly, pro-abortion is technically the direct opposite of anti-abortion, but the Wikipedia articles are at the titles "Anti-abortion movements" and "Abortion rights movements", not "Pro-life movements" and "Pro-abortion movements".
- The editor(s) claim that Gothamist is "an anti Catholic blog run by hipster transplants". This does not explain the inclusion of Newsweek (which per WP:NEWSWEEK is considered a questionable source) or National Catholic Register (which is just as biased toward Catholic topics as the Gothamist is purportedly biased against Catholic topics). I've replaced the Gothamist source with a Fox News source, which should be an acceptable compromise if the Gothamist source really is the problem.
– Epicgenius (talk) 02:48, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Epicgenius I support removing the paragraph entirely per WP:NOTNEWS. These protests are not notable because they fail the WP:10YEARTEST. Scorpions13256 (talk) 13:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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