Talk:Spuyten Duyvil, Bronx/Archive 1
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Translation
There is some dispute as to the translation of Spuyten Duyvil to English. Due to the turbulence in the creek, many believe the name to mean "Spouting Devil" or "Spitting Devil" and do not accept the Washington Irving translation as likely.[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.15.162.75 (talk) 00:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
References
Some believe it means "spouting meadow"[1], which seems unlikely, since Duyvil is clearly a cognate for Devil. Intersofia (talk) 19:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the legends section. This comes from Irving's book, Knickerbocker's History of New York, which is a very amusing satire on the Dutch rule in New Amsterdam. But it isn't any sort of cite, because Irving made most of it up for pure entertainment. I recommend reading it, but it is neither true history, nor true legend, so material from it doesn't belong here. Avumede (talk) 02:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, A History of New-York from the Beginning of the World to the End of the Dutch Dynasty, by Diedrich Knickerbocker is a work of fiction. That's not to say that there isn't any factual content as Washington Irving drew from historic as well as legendary sources, but any content needs to be verified. Without citations for the supposed translations, the lede seems to smack of original research. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 23:31, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
1882 wreck at Spuyten Duyvil
Although I I take the New York Post with huge grains of salt, I saw the following article. I followed up by looking at The New York Times.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/01/spuyten-duyvil-curve-has-a-deadly-history/
http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/?srchst=p#/Spuyten+Duyvil/from18820101to18820731/
Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 23:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)