Talk:Spirit of Tasmania (disambiguation)

Improvements

The article is missing information about the Catamaran Ship operated by the Spirit of Tasmania, known as the "Devil Cat". The service had to be discontinued because it was unreliable due to the ever changing conditions of Bass Strait. The service operated between Melbourne and Devonport.

Read: http://www.tourismtasmania.com.au/tasind/talk/talk_990611_issue41.html

Ansett 03:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree that information about the Cat is lacking in Wikipedia, but this article is about the Spirit of Tasmania, not the Devil Cat. Such info would be more appropriate in Bass Strait, TT-Line or, as I see you have done, Devil Cat. If memory serves me right, there was also a service called the Sea Cat before the Devil Cat? -- Chuq 08:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, the service was actually between George Town and Port Welshpool. -- Chuq 08:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

The Devil Cat ran between George Town and Port Melbourne. The Sea Cat ran between George Town and Port Welshpool. (JROBBO 12:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC))

Photo request

Urgent - can someone get a shot of the Spirit of Tasmania III (Sydney to Devonport Service) before it is cancelled? The last service is on the 27th of August 2006. Please!! (JROBBO 07:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

Hi JROBBO I have up-loaded some pics of her I took yesterday (20/6) on my site (go to Spirit of Tasmanian III)

• Mitchell’s Tasmanian ferry site

Mbruce1 10:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's one taken last year that may be of use: photo --Mike Funnell 13:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• I just went ahead and added that photo, and another, replacing the advertising image. --Mike Funnell 00:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the requested photo tags from this talk page, it appears that the request has been sorted out. invincible 06:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Spirit of Tasmania III (2004-2006)

The article states

Due to lack of passengers, rising airfares and other factors, the service is due to be cancelled from 28 August 2006 onwards. [1]

Following the reference you get to the quotes

It is clear with the forecast coming to us ... that it would not be responsible to maintain the three year commitment and that we should sell the Spirit of Tasmania now," Mr Lennon said.

"I think it is time for us to face the reality that it is just too expensive for tourists ... to come to Tasmania, with a cheap airline options that are in the marketplace, by sea."

So rising airfares have nothing to do with the cancellation of the service (which was in fact be rather counter-intuitive, why I went looking at the source). I have modified removed the in-article reference to airfares. Garrie 06:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge

I don’t believe that it is a good idea at all to merge any of the stated articles because TT-line is the owner of the ships not the ships them selves. I agree the spirit of Tasmania article has moved away from it original purpose going to much in to TT-line and not enough to the ships but it still needs to remain independent to TT-line as it is about the ships not the company so with saying that I think the devil cat should not be on that page because it has nothing to do with spirit of Tasmania but TT-line and I think the page could speak more on the ships them self’s maybe even a disambiguation with each ship having its own page as is the case with the original spirit, Abel Tasman and the devil cat. Merging these articles would be like merging the Toyota corolla with Toyota just because Toyota makes the car it dose not mean all the cars history and specs should be put on that page. Mbruce1 06:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, however I'm happy for the original Spirit of Tasmania ship article to be merged (although the ship does have a life and different names after and before it served as the Spirit of Tassie itself). JROBBO 05:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Remove Devil Cat

I feel it appropriate that the Devil Cat section be removed as it has no relevance to the name Spirit of Tasmania which is the name of the ships not the company although today the company trades and markets itself as Spirit of Tasmania but it is still TT-Line (Australia) and has always been. Any way at the time of the cats Spirit of Tasmania (first ship) only represented a ships name operated by TT-Line (Australia). Mbruce1 13:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Proposed disambiguation page

I propose that this page be made into a disambiguation (After Spirit I & II have their own pages)as it will be a natural progression that each Spirit of Tasmania ship gets its own page as has happen with M/S Spirit of Tasmania and Spirit of Tasmania III, so this will happen with Spirit I & II. It would be silly to keep this page as it is then, the page would have something along the lines of

Spirit of Tasmania can refer to

The trading name of TT-Line Pty. Ltd.

The ferry M/S Spirit of Tasmania

The ferry MS Spirit of Tasmania I

The ferry MS Spirit of Tasmania II

The ferry MS Spirit of Tasmania III

Anyone object ? or support for that matter ?

Mbruce1 (talk) 12:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This would be in keeping with WP:SHIPS conventions, so I definately support. In fact, this page has been listed amongst pages that should be separated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Disambig pages trying to be more, so I doubt anyone would oppose the split. -- Kjet (talk · contribs) 05:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah good one, seems everyone’s on top of it then. I thought I had just better ask before it all get changed. BTW you have been doing some really nice work recently, with new articles etc, please do keep up the good work!! Mbruce1 (talk) 12:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It's always good to make sure, that way you won't run into (too many) unpleasant surprises. ;) And thank you very much, I'm mostly just having fun - if good articles are the result, so much the better. -- Kjet (talk · contribs) 12:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposed page move

I've just added some content for Spirit of Tasmania IV and V which will be commencing service next year and the following year. It's occurred to me the page names aren't entirely clear. People generally know Spirit of Tasmania, first and foremost, as the company that operates the ships and route. Not many people know it as TT-Line (the company markets itself and trades as Spirit of Tasmania as mentioned in the lede at TT-Line Company). I therefore propose:

• Moving Spirit of Tasmania (this page) to Spirit of Tasmania (disambiguation) and clean it up to clarify former, current and future ships
• Moving TT-Line Company to Spirit of Tasmania

Note: Following this, there is potential for TT-Line Company and/or TT-Line to be made redirects/disambig pages for the European TT-Line GmbH and the Australian Spirit of Tasmania page - but that's something for later on, after discussion at Talk:TT-Line GmbH. Thoughts welcome! -- Chuq (talk) 08:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I've now made the two changes listed above. Will leave it to settle before making more. A lot of double redirects to fix. -- Chuq (talk) 05:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

From looking at pageview stats, both the German and Australian companies are equally notable. Now that the Australian one is at Spirit of Tasmania and the German one is at TT-Line GmbH, I'd like to make TT-Line a disambiguation page, and redirect all ambiguous names (such as TT-Line Company) to that one. Figure it's best to get all the pages in the right location before fixing redirects that might change! I'll link this discussion at Talk:TT-Line GmbH as well. -- Chuq (talk) 22:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

good work chuq - pity about the echo chamber - go ahead and do the changes - the explanation above and actions make a lot of good sense - its good to see you still around for the important stuff... JarrahTree 09:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @JarrahTree! Yeah, I still pop in now and then :) -- Chuq (talk) 11:55, 20 March 2022 (UTC)