Talk:Spinning frame

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Proposal for deletion

There simply isn't such a thing. See Cotton-spinning machinery to get an overview. Please discuss. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there is such a thing and it's mentioned here:

And so, altough the first of the famous series of inventions that transformed the textile industry-both the fly-shuttle of Kay (1733) and the spinning frame of Wyatt and Paul (1738)- were designed for the manufacture of wool, the requirements of technology and the logic of economic situation ruled otherwise.Landes & year-1969, pp. 84

Landes, David. S. (1969). The Unbound Prometheus: Technological Change and Industrial Development in Western Europe from 1750 to the Present. Cambridge, New York: Press Syndicate of the University of Cambridge. p. 84. ISBN 0-521-09418-6. By the way, this is one of the most widely cited references on the history of industrialization.Phmoreno (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Influence from the east

I have reverted all your excellent text- because causuality cannot be proved. 0-262-66072-5 Pacey 1989 Technology in world civilisation. Discusses many of these points but concludes that the copies of the mediaeval text mistranslated and mis labelled key diagrams.

Grave doubt whether the the term spinning frame is correct or ever used. See note above
The illustration in Wang Zhens book is conjectural- but shows a silk reeling frame. Follows the description of a 1090 device described (Needham vol 4 p107)
Reeling is the last process- one needs to show evidence of mechanised twisting
No evidence of the use of cams and gears before 1200- making a spinning frame impossible to construct
If we were to have technology transfer through India we should see prototype spinning wheels there before 1350. None. They spun using the chakra- word of Iranian roots. The first reference to spinning wheel in China was in 1270, and in Europe 1280 and in Bagdad in 1237.
I have a reference to undershot water wheels in 990, but unlikely to have beem influenced vy Vituvius (?410)
Over 150 years there has been a concerted campaign to deprive James Hargreaves of the credit for his invention and this has been extensively researched

Can you rephrase and write a small article on Chinese Textile Technology? --ClemRutter (talk) 11:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]