Talk:Spaghetti/Archive 1

Archive 1

Image removal

idiot

I think we should leave it on. Who can predict his noodle-y wisdom? Let us pray. --Mgreenbe 11:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation?

Should there be a disambiguation page? Spaghetti can also mean rubbish code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_code. We should at least mention it.

--David.Mestel 21:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

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I created a disambig page at Spaghetti (disambiguation) - AKeen 13:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism

People keep adding Flying Spaghetti Monsterism on this page - please note, a link is already on the disambig page - AKeen 17:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of which, Monsters(Matchbook Romance song) Redirects here. Probably some anon vandal. Dont know much about the song or its album, but i know it is a song in GH3. Mister Anon(no not really, just an anon)76.112.196.180 May 11 08 (UTC)

Leonardo

There are two different things here.. spaghetti and OTHER pasta. Spaghetti is specifically the round kind of long noodles, and the ones that were preppared in Italy were squared. The round kind of pasta that is known as spaghetti was invented by Leonardo DaVinci, according to various sources. I shall investigate further and append this and more culinary facts in Leonardo da Vinci and afterwards will insist on this. note: I might be wrong with the names. I am not an english speaker, but I seriously doubt the names should be THAT different --Lacrymology 12:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess spaghetti is controversial

Heh, I have nothing really productive to say here, I just have to mention that since this has been in my watchlist, I've been shocked at how much vandalism there is. Seriously! Usually pages that get vandalized this much are about something controversial and related to current events. Was spaghetti involved in a recent international sex scandal that I just didn't hear about or something? heh.... --Jaysweet 22:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

you should try adding Pig or Hot dog to your watchlist. Seems the more common something is the more controversial it is. JohnCub 22:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Well it has just been declared that spaghetti grows on trees in a very well developed paragraph. I am afraid to change it back considering that it can actually be cited out of a BBC April Fool's Joke, which is a published documentary. Redian (Talk) 18:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted it. Axl 18:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Food Poisoning

Do you know that spaghetti is also a dangerous dish? In some countries such as the Philippines, there have been numerous reports about people getting ill because of eating spaghetti. This is due to using left-over sauce. Perhaps this idea should be included in the article. 124.106.203.252 12:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

We need a reliable source for this. And even if this info was properly verified, it doesn't sound like the pasta itself is the culprit, so it probably doesn't belong in this article. -- Satori Son 12:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there were several cases over the years here in the Philippines that testifies to your facts but you entiltled this as Food Poisoning, didnt you? Because come to think of it in respect with that, there were a other cases of food poisoning that involves shellfish (this is the most frequent reason here...)and the poisoning is the byproduct not necessarily of the ingredients, in this case -- the pasta, but rather by the preparation (cooking) or the other factors ( room temperature, packaging or other ingredients like pork)might be the reason why it even became a threat to anyone's life!Ergo, your claim isnt really necessary!

• • • this comment is not in connection with the article but just a clarification with the previous entry involved.

---FYI---from the Philippines —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.252.90.6 (talk) 03:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Sucking (spaghetti)

See this article on The Straight Dope [1]. I think some reference to this incredibly complex physics debate belongs in this article, but I am hesitant to do this (boldly) because of the controversy it could cause. Consensus anyone? Deltopia (talk) 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

This would be a natural adjunct to the section on the physics of breaking spaghetti. Wording something like: "The physics behind the phenomenon of sucking _limp_ spaghetti into one's mouth remain controversial, however [2]".Robma (talk) 08:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I would add a little bit more, actually going into how it is controversial. I feel it would be more helpful like that, rather than forcing the reader to go to the ref to understand what about it is controversial. Carl.bunderson (talk) 05:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Origin Section

In 48 hours I'm going to delete large portions of the Origins section since it's almost entirely unsourced.Reinoe (talk) 15:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Noodles, pasta, and spaghetti

"While legend has it that Marco Polo brought the recipe for spaghetti back from China, prior evidence showed that pasta has been made in Italy at least since the 4th century BC."

Why is this presented as if contradicting the Marco Polo claim? Pasta is not spaghetti.

"In October 2005, a bowl of noodles 4000 years old was unearthed in a Chinese archaeological site as reported by the BBC.[3]"

And now we have to throw noodles into the mix just in case we haven't fucked with the reader's mind enough. I am thoroughly confused. TrueMirror 17:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Because the Chinese were first to invent noodles does not mean it was their recipe which travelled the world. The Inca people had agriculture. They didn't get a postcard from Mesopotamia, they thought it up themselves. That's the point people miss about culture. Sometimes two or more people invent the same thing, like language or writing or clothes. Sometimes people invent things which get forgotten and have to be reinvented, or rediscovered, like Greek philosophy. Viewing culture as a ladder is simplistic. It's more like a tree, with lots of limbs, some dead, some alive, spreading all over.72.78.179.244 (talk) 20:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Duck! Cluster incoming!

"In Sicily, the accepted method for determining how well cooked the noodles are, is to throw a cluster against the wall. Once the first cluster sticks, the pasta is ready for consumption" - I'd like to ask someone from Sicily, because... well, this was one of the scare stories told me about the terrors of eating abroad when I first visited England. "No, really, they throw a noodle to the wal and when it sticks tey think it's okay! Can you imagine eating that gooey stuff?" Tridentinus 12:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm Italian American and we have an old secret trick to knowing when the pasta is done. We pull one out and eat it. If it's not done, we let them cook. If it is, we eat the rest of them.72.78.179.244 (talk) 20:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow. That's rad!

FSMism

"The spoof religion Pastafarianism holds that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster."

I object! Pastafariansim is NOT a spoof religion. It's just a real religion as Christianity, Judaisim, the worship of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, Islam, Confusionism, and what not!

Parmesan cheese over tomato topped spaghetti ?

Please delete the first photo in this article. We, Italians, NEVER use parmesan cheese over spaghetti with tomato sauce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.222.93.129 (talk) 18:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

And anyway, not everyone who eats spaghetti is Italian. I eat my spaghetti like that all the time, and so do most the people I know. TwistedRed 23:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Any particular reason you decided to put your post in the middle of mine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TwistedRed (talk • contribs) 22:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

TwistedRed (talk) 17:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC) A loyal Pastafarian

I put parmigian on spaghetti all the time. What I object to is the way the sauce is poured over the pasta. Yuck! Che 'mericano!72.78.179.244 (talk) 20:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Too many sophomoric claims without citations: 'sometimes served with chili con carne' and 'Unlike in Italy, abroad spaghetti is often served with Bolognese sauce'.

Chopsticks?

Spaghetti with chopsticks? I don't know why, but that sounds remarkably silly. At least in South Korea, the idea would be taken as rather humorous and/or pitiful and--while I didn't actually live in Japan--I would claim the same case for Japan as well. Considering that that's already two fifth of East Asian countries where spaghetti is eaten widely, claiming that East Asians sometimes eat spaghetti with chopsticks sounds frivolous. I mean, I'm not saying that this doesn't happen. It's just that the idea is similar to eating sushi with fork and knife. :/ --129.237.14.160 (talk) 18:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Elbow Spaghetti

In the US, a thin type of macaroni is sold as "elbow spaghetti", but is not spaghetti at all, as it has a hollow center like macaroni.--RLent (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Oil in the water?

I think it´s a sin to put oil in the water. On the picture you can see oil! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.212.50.213 (talk) 12:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

it is... you should never ever put oil into the water (regardless of the kind and quality). What happens is that the oil will prevent the sauce from sticking to the noodles. So, you'll basically eat the spaghetti plain and the sauce will remain on your plate. If you like the taste of olive oil, put it in the sauce, not in the water. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.0.145.90 (talk) 22:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Western Dominance and Lies

Its all a last grab of the west to hold on to culture, ideas and things that was "borrowed" and transferred to the west from the east after the collapse of the Arab Empires. History was written by the last winners, and that was Europe. The truth was buried to prove their superiority. With a global culture on the rise we are now realizing that all these ideas that they claim to be theirs actually was developed in the east and transported to the west, so much stuff was developed and came from the east... China, the Arabs, Persia, India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.151.180 (talk) 17:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Marco Polo nonsense

Did you know that spagetti turns purple in your tummy and half of what you ate goes to your brain and sits there for 20 years to mold. Well, the story as I heard it anyway, is that pasta/noodles already existed in Italy, what Marco Polo and other traders brought was specifically long noodles (AKA spaghetti or lo-mein). Since I'm not sure I could verify that, I'm not putting it in the main article. -- Logotu 19:37, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well, I cut it out.

An alternative theory to the origins of the name comes from the popular story that Marco Polo returned from China with long string-like pasta. The traditional noodles from China are called La(1) Mian(4)(in Hanyu Pinyin). A direct translation would be 'pull(ed) noodles'. They are made from naturally stretched flour via a pulling and rotating motion by chinese noodle master chefs. As Marco Polo only brought back the ingredients and not the specialised know-how (and that includes a Chinese master chef!), Italian spaghetti was and is now made with 'play-dough' like machines, just like those in modern commercial Chinese noodle factories.

I'd want to see a source saying that Marco Polo did bring the stuff. Sources all over the internet --Mgreenbe 00:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Objection to the quote "A common theory is that Marco Polo brought the noodles back with him from China, but this is not true." and its reference "ref>http://www.ilovepasta.org/factsaboutpasta.html</ref>". No serious scientific, academic, or historical documentation is given by the source for their claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.10.183 (talk • contribs)

I do not beleive that site is credible, as the fist quote says "macaroni" was a synonym for excellence, and relates that to the line in Yankee Doodle; however, a macaroni was slang for a rich person in 18th century England and America.

I removed "not true" and put "not proved."

RebDrummer61 21:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

People have repeated the Marco Polo myth so many times that there is utter disbelief when you tell people the truth: MARCO POLO DID NOT BRING PASTA TO ITALY OR THE WEST. Even a cursory search on Google shows dozens of credible well sourced sites trying to debunk this stupid myth. Some scholars argue that some long pastas go back to ancient Rome, such as laganum. Others believe it came from the Arabs. Some believe that the Chinese did invent it, but it came to the west with the silk and spice trade thousands of years ago. Besides, the Chinese claim they independently invented the wheel, so why can't Italians independently invent pasta, which is just flour and water mixed and boiled? I am providing links below to prove the point which shouldn't need proving anymore:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD91630F934A35751C1A96E948260

http://www.socyberty.com/History/Did-Marco-Polo-Introduce-the-Italians-to-Pasta-From-China.72108

http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/FOOD_IS_ART/pasta/historypasta.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198607/pasta

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=189891

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/food/pasta-history.asp

http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780231124423

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/lifestyle/article.jsp?content=20080109_143844_1804

http://www.professionalpasta.it/dir_9/1_whoinv.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article577909.ece

Can we put this nonsense to bed now????????????72.78.179.244 (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

mmm.....answers google is a credible source...last time i checked random websites are not credible sources and the ones that are credible only theorize of its origins...."stop the nonsense"....right after you.....sounds like your in denial...just accept the truth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.72.234 (talk) 05:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC) you should look at the sources sighted not the search engine that found them! London Times, Macleans, the Atlantic monthlyetc. those are trusted sources! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 (talk) 06:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Culture Bias

This article is very biased towards how spaghetti is prepared in the US and UK. I've lived in Italy for almost a decade and spaghetti is never cooked 10 to 15 minutes, for example. Since this is about an Italian food product, shouldn't the article focus on how it's prepared served in Italy and then perhaps mention how it's prepared in other nations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.227.106.189 (talk) 03:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Semi-Protected?

Why is this article semi-protected? No other foods out there seem to have any trouble, it may be because they can't agree on where it came from, or the possibility that it doubles as an internet meme.

Is this the only food protected on wiki? We can also move-protect it if needed, although I doubt food is a popular subject within the articles.75.171.14.76 (talk) 05:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't get it...

Resolved

 – This has now been clarified in the article.

"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955."??? Consuption of spaghetti was 14 kg per person or per family or per what? before WWII? -Yashowardhani (talk) 07:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Consumption?

Resolved

 – This has now been clarified in the article.

"Consumption of spaghetti in Italy doubled from 14 kilograms (30.9 lb) before World War II to 28 kilograms (61.7 lb) by 1955"

I guess this means per person, and not over the whole country? KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 20:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Meatballs

"Outside Italy it is often served with meatballs, although that is not a typical Italian recipe."

Really? The only place I've ever seen a meatball with my Spaghetti is in the USA... Correct me if I'm wrong here.

217.67.37.208 (talk) 10:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but I would agree that without a citation it should be deleted. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Plenty of sightings in Asia. But the point remains that citation is preferred. Chensiyuan (talk) 01:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Well it's been like four months, and nothing has happened with it, so I just deleted it as unreferenced. Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Wrong, Spaghetti with meatbals is a common neapolitan recipe, ragù napoletano is also made with meatbals, but meatbals are served as second not with pasta. --Schellenberg (talk) 13:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Country bias?

This article (rightly) mentions Italy, but it fails to mention the many other countries that consume spaghetti in various forms. The UK, for example, consumes huge quantities of tinned spaghetti (leading brand is Heinz, I should think, with tomato sauce), and spaghetti is also popular in such dishes as spaghetti bolognese. A whole paragraph dedicated to the food's popularity in the USA, with no other countries mentioned, is a bit weighted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.57.199 (talk) 00:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Serving

In the "Serving" section I would add that in the United States is common to think that original italian spaghetti are served with meatballs but this is just a wrong rumor.Tiffanytoms (talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014

Sicily is in Italy

I don't get why at the beginning of the article, where the initial description of spaghetti is, there is written "Italian dried spaghetti is made from durum wheat semolina, but outside of Italy and Sicily it may be made with other kinds of flour.". What does it mean "outside of Italy and Sicily"?? Sicily is in Italy!Tiffanytoms (talk) 23:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC) 15:59, 29 April 2014

Actually this is true only for 99% of the people: some people consider the island as a separate country and, as usual, Wikipedia acts as a magnet for them. :-) Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 03:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Noodles

The Noodle page has some interesting and contradictory refs (such as dating) to this page. Some clarity and precision as to the similarities and contrasts of noodles and spaghetti (if any) would be a useful addition here, and actually across the raft of associated articles. I am aware there are no deadlines in wiki but.... I will try to come back myself to help, but must leave it now.SovalValtos (talk) 13:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Nutrition and health section layout

The current layout disrupts the article. Could it be done otherwise, such as splitting into three columns, or even into text?SovalValtos (talk) 16:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Looking at it further, what is the point of having it at all?SovalValtos (talk) 17:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I've moved the infobox to the top of the article and got rid of the disruptive template (Template:-). Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 17:41, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Good workSovalValtos (talk) 06:23, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Layout

I removed one word 'also' and in so doing seem to have changed the layout of the deprecated gallery "spaghetti dishes" which looked good before. I do not know what to do. I do not like un needed alsos, so will not put also back to salvage the layout. Maybe two rows of three images instead of one of six?SovalValtos (talk) 18:13, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

This is possibly a browser problem which has happened to me before, but it could also happen to others. Help please.SovalValtos (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Nutrition facts

The facts describe cooked spaghetti, not dry. The PDF reference is labelled "SPAGHETTI, ENRICHED, DRY" but the nutrition facts inside the PDF are for "1⁄2 cup (70g) spaghetti, cooked". Can be confirmed as the PDF states 32 1/2 cup servings in a 1-lb package... though actually this would mean a dry serving is 14g, while containing 22g of carbohydrates and 4g of protein. So that estimate is a bit off, but dry pasta is still mostly carbohydrates. 2601:600:8500:B2D9:C599:B0D:93B9:F5DE (talk) 04:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit request (unsourced claim)

The subsection ===Italian cuisine=== currently contains the unsourced claim that:

Other spaghetti preparations include Bolognese...[4]

In an Italian context, this is simply not so. In Italy, bolognese sauce is *not* eaten with spaghetti. Unlike spaghetti alla carbonara, so-called spaghetti bolognese is not Italian (per the reliably sourced target page).

This content needs to be relocated under ===International cuisine===. Thank you, 86.157.144.92 (talk) 09:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

(No COI)

 Done Alex2006 (talk) 09:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that Alex2006. Could I suggest (broadly per the Bolognese sauce page) something like:

Spaghetti bolognese is a popular dish outside of Italy, which consists of a meat and tomato sauce served on a bed of spaghetti (in Italy, spaghetti is not traditionally served with any type of ragù).

Cheers, 86.157.144.92 (talk) 14:10, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Microwave preparation

The only source for microwave preparation is a reddit post with 2 points and no comments, added by someone with the same wikipedia username as reddit username. This doesn't seem like a reliable third party source. I found a couple of online articles that might be more reliable: http://lifehacker.com/boil-microwave-pasta-by-adding-three-minutes-to-the-nor-1699281678 and http://www.tablespoon.com/posts/how-to-make-pasta-in-the-microwave/0812d5fe-4345-432b-87bd-c83589a219d8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.19.220.253 (talk) 23:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Dark matter

The infobox accounts for only 26.504g of the 70g serving analysed. And that includes 1g of fibre.

Surely there is not almost 45g of water in 70g of dry spaghetti? There will be some, but...

What is missing? Andrewa (talk) 20:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

"Spaghetti" as the name of a dish

As a Briton, I tend to think of "spaghetti" as being the name of the type of pasta, to which you append the name of the sauce - "Spaghetti Carbonara", "Spaghetti Bolognese" and so on.

However, I have seen both in conversations with Americans and on American media generally that "Spaghetti" in US usage refers just as often to a specific dish (which I think may be what I know as "Spaghetti Bolognese"). Can anyone shed a little more light on this and is it worth adding a mention in passing on the page? Brickie (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

As with everything in Wikipedia nothing should be mentioned in passing. If you consider it encyclopedic and have references so that the information can be verified it should be added to the article.Lame Name (talk)

Some people pull spagetti out of their noses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.118.11 (talk) 16:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

In the US Spaghetti often means spaghetti with some kind of tomato sauce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 (talk) 06:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

In the US the word Spaghetti is also sometimes used erroneously as a general term for pasta207.237.208.153 (talk) 20:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

In Germany "spaghetti", standing alone, means spaghetti with tomato sauce (sauté some onion and garlic in olive oil, deglaze with sieved tomatoes and add some water, or deglaze with more water and add tomato paste; cook that a bit; add some salt and as much pepper as you like) or even with butter and ketchup. Not bolognese, though; even where "bolognese" means nothing but "a tomato sauce with added mincemeat", that is much too special a dish. (Not to mention that both actual bolognese sauce and tomato-mincemeat-sauce fit better to other kinds of pasta.)--2001:A61:20DA:B301:D9BE:9FF0:102C:3DB4 (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Images

Can anyone find an image of a factory spaghetti extruding production line, please? Better than a thousand words. All the photos of servings are foodie dreams. How about some standard USA mass market tinned product? Sorry to bring it up again, but an image of the BBC (UK TV station) April Fools joke of spaghetti on trees could have its place in cultural references? SovalValtos (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

For starters, I have added two images to the article's Dried spaghetti section. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:06, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Brilliant! User:Northamerica1000 I had no idea what the machines might look like, and now we all know. However I may have to change my user name to Oliver (Twist) as I would like MORE. Surely there must be a wiki editor who has access to a 21stC spaghetti factory and could upload an image to commons?

I have never seen the type of domestic machine in use whose image is currently with the fresh section; can it be clarified whether it is extruding, as said in the caption, or rolling and cutting? A nice distinction, but one worth making for Wikipedia.SovalValtos (talk) 13:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Can anyone find a image of the long blue paper packaging, please? SovalValtos (talk) 06:21, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

This is somewhere towards what I was thinking in terms of a modern factory image, but probably not suitable for Wikipedia as is. Could it be used as a link? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23LsLTkS_WsSovalValtos (talk) 18:59, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

So frustrating not having modern images available in commons, when they abound elsewhere [5] SovalValtos (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about the US market, but in Germany while there are tinned sauces for spaghetti, and they are much used, and there are pre-made spaghetti for sale, which are used even more (making them oneself is very rare), the steps to 1. boil the spaghetti 2. warm up the sauce 3. separate the spaghetti from the cooking water, put the sauce above them, and mix (as also, usually, 4. add grated cheese) are usually still done by the ones who'd eat the pasta. It isn't that much of an effort.--2001:A61:20DA:B301:D9BE:9FF0:102C:3DB4 (talk) 14:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2018

plz let me edit this as it may have wrong information and I'm highly offended. Coolname123 (talk) 17:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

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The berber origin is an nonsense

"Some historians think that Berbers introduced pasta to Europe during a conquest of Sicily. In the West, it may have first been worked into long, thin forms in Sicily around the 12th century, as the Tabula Rogeriana of Muhammad al-Idrisi attested, reporting some traditions about the Sicilian kingdom.[5]"

The pasta were cooked in Italy during the roman times. Berbers have nothing to do with it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:5018:7100:9C76:D99:D2EB:EC12 (talk) 16:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

I just need to know how to make it

All i need to know is how to make spaghetti the real way because all the internet comes up with is how to boil it and how to make the bolonase!!! please can someone tell me how to make it?

• Wikipedia is not a cook-book. Globbet (talk) 18:47, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

what do you mean how to make it< once you boil it you can include in thousands of different recipes, including meat sauce, marinara, carbonara,tetrazini,bolognese,etc. etc.etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.186.192 (talk) 06:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC) 

As far as I see, one mostly buys pre-made spaghetti, which then are boiled. (As for bolognese sauce, accepted if spaghetti are the kind of pasta you have in the house. If you go shopping for them, next to the spaghetti in the shelf there are tagliatelle, which aren't more expensive, so that's what you'd want to go with a bolognese sauce, even a much simplified one. The sauce just sticks better to the pasta.)

As for actually making them oneself, I haven't tried, but it seems you have to mix the dew and press through an appropriate press, or so.--2001:A61:20DA:B301:D9BE:9FF0:102C:3DB4 (talk) 14:38, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

This is not covered in the article and it should be.Making your own spaghetti (or more to the point how spaghetti is made) is a completely different from how it is cooked.OrewaTel (talk) 04:37, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Production of Spaghetti

I'd like to see more information on the process of creating spaghetti. I came to this page with hopes of adding a "see also: Spaghetti#Production" to the Spaghetti tree hoax article. Justin Ormont (talk) 04:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a section, "Production" with a sub-section "Fresh spaghetti" but it is completely wrong.It states that you can make spaghetti by cutting sheets and it even cites a web page that says the same thing.This of course it totally impossible. Spaghetti is cylindrical and it is impracticable to produce it by cutting. What is described is how to make a form of fettucini. I am searching for a reliable source of the real way of making spaghetti. (It involves pulling pasta and elongating it by whirling it like a skipping rope.)I intend to replace the current paragraph. In any case the current paragraph being wrong must be removed or relabelled.OrewaTel (talk) 05:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Programme

Programme, not program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.2.143 (talk) 16:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

"Espagueti" listed at Redirects for discussion

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This article needs a complete re-do

The Italian wikipedia article for Spaghetti is of high quality and avoids any useless, tiresome commentary about American habits. Try running through Google Translate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:7004:1400:4DE9:215D:ADF1:90EF (talk) 09:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Giant Pic

Jesus fuck those spaghetti pics are huge. mnemonic 10:34, 2004 Jun 27 (UTC)

I've reduced them a little now. The full versions are available by clicking. — Chameleon 13:15, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I was referring to the full versions, actually. Do we really need 2500px-wide images of spaghetti, larger than most max resolutions on 19" monitors? I think a modest 1280x960 or 1024x768 would express the spaghetti-ness of the dish quite sufficiently. mnemonic 20:08, 2004 Jun 27 (UTC)

Ah OK. I've now reduced them to 25% of their original size. They were a bit vomit-inducing before. — Chameleon 21:54, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

durum wheat!

I just re-edit this page about spaghetti. The original Italian spaghetti (and the only "al dente" qualities) come from durum wheat ! In italy you don't find anything but durum wheat spaghetti, just because other kind of flours make spaghetti consistency very similar to the consistency of a pudding. Common wheat flour is the main ingredient for some kinds of fresh pasta, but spaghetti is not a kind of fresh pasta. The kind of fresh pasta which is similar to spaghetti is fettuccine, a typical Emilia Romagna (northern Italy) pasta.

Yes and isn't this in the article? The article is rather poor.

true 31.27.159.113 (talk) 06:39, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2021

Please remove the word “noodles” from your definition of spaghetti. Spaghetti and noodles are two distinct categories. Thank you. Sarahaedwards25 (talk) 03:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Done per talk page of pasta. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 05:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

The picture labeled "Pesto spaghetti" clearly depicts linguine, not spaghetti, and should be removed or moved to the other article.

References

 Note: Done, but simply because there are too many images and WP:NOTGALLERY applies, not out of any concern about the merits of the request. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

spaghetti?

I need info about spaghetti for homework someone help me i cant find any thing does anybody know about the percentage of how many people in Illinois or if not possible in the United States someone please respond due friday the 12th and todays the 11th

thanks

Wow, um... Illinois? --Golbez 15:37, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Inaccurate OED Reference

A former version of the article had:

 However the Oxford English Dictionary currently still gives the singular
 as spaghetto for English speaking users.

However, the Oxford English Dictionary Online (2nd ed.) says no such thing, as of July 2006, and in fact the word "spaghetto" is only used in the etymology. Thus, I've removed this comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.179.194.93 (talk • contribs)

Little Known Origin

Most people don't know this, but spaghetti actually originated in New York around 1910. It came from the spaghetto. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hootocol (talk • contribs) 15:00, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

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