Talk:Space Mountain

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Info Box

The info box that was put on this page should be changed, it is too big and contain uncorrect and unneccessary information. Parks are wrong and sub-info is located on individual profiles.--Randomgbear 20:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Enclosed coaster

Something to keep in mind - this is an ENCLOSED coaster, not an INDOOR one. An enclosed coaster is in a building that is specifically constructed to house the coaster, while an indoor one is built inside a building that also serves other purposes (i.e. a shopping mall). Dusso Janladde 08:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Video

Anyone watched this [1]? a video rendered using rollercoatertycoon. SYSS Mouse 20:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Check out a huge amount of "WDW Space Mountain". Disney Mountain Rides.

Space Mountain in the Magic Kingdom

I have to say, this section is really awful. It makes little or no sense most of the time. For example, it talks about the Matterhorn Bobsleds track being used until 1978. Then what? I just don't get it. If I get some time I'll sort it out, but I don't know the facts for it... 194.193.78.109 12:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Magic Kingdom section

A anonymous user has tried to remove most of the WDW section twice. I think it may be because it has too much information, but I believe there is a lot of good info there. I don't think it should simply be deleted because it is somewhat of a mess. I'm not too good at editing things like this, so I've put a tag over the section, maybe someone else can clean it up. --blm07 21:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

The tag might be confusing. The article does not need to be rewritten because it is too long but because the information is not presented effectivly. Lyle Barrere 07:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. None of the other sections of the article go to this much detail on the theming (and changes thereto) of the various mountains. I do agree it's good stuff and noteworthy, if it can be backed up. I don't know what to do with this, as it doesn't really merit a separate article (an article on a ride post-show?!?). I've been trying to clean up the rest of the section to make it more readable, but welcome changes to make it even better.

McDoobAU93 21:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The tense

It's always been a pet peeve of mine when someone writes about a fictional or event-related thing (like a roller coaster ride) in the tense of 'This would happen' or 'You would feel this', rather than the easier-to-read 'This happens' or 'You feel this'. I made a similar comment on the Dead Rising video game article. Because there are multiple plotlines to the game, someone summarized each alternate ending with the tense of 'This character would do this if you would go here', and it makes the article unreadable, at least for me. So if somebody could fix that here, because I'm too lazy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.101.20.60 (talk) 07:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC).

Extremely confusing sentence

From 1975-1989 the 26 respective ride vehicles for each respective track consisted of two vehicles joined together, with the layout of each respective vehicle divided in half, with two actual seats, but would fit four passengers due to two of the four passengers having to place themselves directly in front of the other two passengers, who were comfortably sitting on an actual seat, unlike the other two passengers, who were at the mercy of the other passengers' legs and lap. Passengers were placed single file (one passenger behind the other).

What is this saying exactly? I really cannot, for the life of me, figure it out. Is it saying that people used to sit two people to a seat? Someone was forced to sit in someone's lap? Or that someone tried to squish in front of the other? This needs to be cleaned up really badly because it seems extremely roundabout as it is now and rather incoherent. It reminds me of a little kid babbling with a friend. I would do it myself, but I have no idea what it's saying to figure out how to change it. --pIrish 01:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I think I understand. Maybe it should be "From 1975 - 1989, each track had 26 ride vehicles. Each vehicle consisted of two rockets joined together. Each rocket could hold four people: two seats and once large space so one person could sit on another person's lap." I think that is what he is trying to say. --blm07 02:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I have to agree. I read this king of run-on sentences and my head almost exploded. Someone fix it please or I will do some research and change it when I have time. -- Patrick Berry 17:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I've made an attempt fix it. Please let me know if the description works better. Macg4cubeboy 01:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposed split

Extant Space Mountain into

• Space Mountain (Walt Disney World)
• Space Mountain (Disneyland, Anaheim)
• Space Mountain (Tokyo Disneyland)
• Space Mountain (Disneyland, Paris)
• Space Mountain (Hong Kong Disneyland),
• and move this page to Space Mountain (disambiguation).

I'm not sure about the names, but the sections are long enough to each have their own articles. The What links here list isn't that bad, and I'd be willing to go dab them all. ALTON .ıl 01:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I need help with the names, if anything. ALTON .ıl 01:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hearing no objections, I'm splitting this page. ALTON .ıl 00:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed:In popular culture

• Star Command headquarters as seen in the animated series Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is a modified version of Space Mountain. This can especially be seen in the online version of Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters.
• Referenced frequently on an episode of The Golden Girls, in which Sophia Petrillo, a character in her 80s, tries to get her daughter in her 50s to take her on all weekend during a vacation to Disney World.
• Space Mountain is a nickname used by pro wrestler Ric Flair. In reference to his high popularity level despite his advanced age, Flair usually comments in a double entendre that "Space Mountain may be the oldest ride in the park, but it still has the longest line!"
• In the UK TV sitcom Spaced, the army-obsessed Mike Watt stole a tank and tried to invade Paris, but stopped off at Euro Disney and was apprehended at Space Mountain.
• On an episode of Chappelle's Show, Dave is given a house by MTV for their show Cribs. Dave mentions to the viewer that he has a marble foyer cut from Space Mountain and shows it to the camera.
• On a wall near Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters in Disneyland's Tomorrowland, a large mural with several Space Mountains can be seen hovering in space. These Space Mountains are a cross between the Star Command Space Station's (inspired by the Space Mountain dome) from Buzz Lightyear Star Command and Space Mountain itself.
• The game Project Nomad was originally liscenced by Disney to have a Space Mountain theme. A prominent element, in the protagonist's ship design, remains as evidence.
• Space Mountain is seen in Disney's Meet the Robinsons. In one scene you see the two main characters flying through a futuristic city in a time machine. You see a shot of the outside of Space Mountain and there is a sign in front that reads Todayland.
• During the 2006 NFL season, the Chicago Bears would often end each huddle by exclaiming, "We're going to Space Mountain". According to players and commentators, the phrase symbolized the team's desire to reach and win the Super Bowl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alton (talk • contribs) 01:10, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

References

Ric Flair?

Professional Wrestler Ric Flair used the nickname "Space Mountain" sporadically through his career. Should this be referenced on this disambiguation page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuthehistoryguy (talk • contribs) 19:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

another Space Mountain in Thailand

There is a licensed Space Mountain in Bangkok, Thailand. I have ridden it and it seems to be identical to the one in Orlando. It is called Space Mountain, and next to the exit area is a wall plaque stating that the ride is an officially licensed ride of Disney. It is shown and mentioned on the website for the park, called Dream World. I think the site is www.dreamworld.co.th but that may not be accurate. Just type in Dream World in a search, go to the site, then click on the English tab. The ride is as fun as the USA ones, but is not popular. I always walked in with no waiting and could ride it as many times as I wanted. Bob S66.35.167.106 (talk) 17:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I followed some of the items you suggested, along with checking some research of my own. According to RCDB, Dreamworld's Space Mountain is a Vekoma MK-900, and appears to be similar to a couple of other roller coasters (including one at Germany's Phantasialand), but not any of the Disney Space Mountain attractions. The English website was severely lacking in information, and even following the Thai version's links (based on their English equivalents) didn't reveal any suggestion that Disney licensed this version. So, pending any sort of picture of said plaque, or some other form of verifiable proof (I looked at three trip reports on theme park fan-sites that had lots of photos, but nobody mentioned it, including one reviewer that went on continually about the park being a Disneyland rip-off), any proposed Thailand Space Mountain article should avoid mentioning any connection to Disney, lest it be undone rather quickly. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

ambiguous sentence about seating

That description fits several log flume rides of the 1970s-80s. One rider sat in a real 'seat' and a second one would sit on the floor between the legs of the first rider. This is safe on slow rides but would be very dangerous on fast rides, esp. ones like Space Mtn. I doubt this type of seating was ever used on this ride. I rode the one at Six Flags, Houston and at Opryland, Nashville, and on both I sat on the floor while my wife had the upper seat. Bob S66.35.167.106 (talk) 18:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Space Mountain Florida and Disneyland's Matterhorn Bobsleds share the same basic seating pattern--a bench seat with a single seat belt where the front rider sits between the legs of the rear rider, with both using the same seat belt. Each compartment would hold two riders, which would indeed be unlike most log flumes back in the period you mention, which did have single benches for the entire log. Nowadays, many of those have been retrofitted with at least one backrest (usually in the middle of the log), or even one for each rider, such as on Disneyland's Splash Mountain or Islands of Adventure's Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite to a "broad-concept" article

I have rewritten this page so it is a "broad-concept" article per WP:DABCONCEPT. All five Space Mountain rides share a common history and origins, and similar designs. Therefore, it should not necessarily be an ordinary disambiguation list, with all the different related-Wikipedia policies and guidelines that go with WP:MOSDAB and so forth. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I should also point out that the WP:DABCONCEPT guidelines back in 2007 when this page was originally proposed to be split. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Very little info

This article tells virtually nothing about the ride itself, except the history of when each one opened. 99.98.221.223 (talk) 23:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Because of the fact that the ride itself is mainly in the main articles of the rides? ZappaOMati 16:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed Merger: (Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy into Space Mountain)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To merge given the lack of independent notability of Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy. Klbrain (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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A holiday overlay doesn't need its own page, it is not noteworthy on its own as its only a short seasonal overly, the attraction itself is the same, and there are no sources on this page. I get that the WP:DISNEY community loves making pages for everything, but some things simply don't need their own pages. I also think that Space Mountain should just be one page and not complete separate articles for each location (see: Splash Mountain and Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin), but that's a discussion for another day.

Support – I agree that this should be merged with Space Mountain. -- Toughpigs (talk) 18:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Weak Oppose I am a firm believer that theming for Disney rides should be listed as separate sections under their respective ride's page to reduce clutter and promote full appreciation of the ride's thematic elements on that ride's page directly. However, the community needs to come to a stronger consensus on this before proceeding. Currently, many rides have separate pages for holiday themes. See: Country Bear Christmas Special, Haunted Mansion Holiday. ClaudeDavid (talk) 17:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Support – A standalone article is not needed unless significant coverage in reliable sources warrants it. Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy doesn't qualify and should be merged into a section of the Space Mountain article. It can and should be condensed down into one paragraph or less. There is only one source cited in the Ghost Galaxy article. A quick search reveals a few good sources that can be added (which you can see here and here), but they are more passing mentions and announcements that don't delve into too much detail. It's briefly described as a Halloween overlay covering a few details in 1-2 sentences depending on the source. Adding sources like this would not significantly expand the article beyond stub status. At this time, there's no reason to fork this over into a separate article. --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Soundtrack Section Removed (Space Mountain Disneyland)

The 1996 "Soundtrack" section that has been there for many years has been completely removed by another editor. Prior to that removal, I had made an edit hoping to add further context but apparently ran into the policy issues of "primary source". As such, the other editor decided to remove the section entirely, not just reverting from my edits, stating that the whole thing was unsourced. While it did lack citations, the version prior to my edit contained accurate information regarding the 1996 soundtrack. It was factually correct, it just lacked certain details regarding the production process. Being that this was the first-ever music to have been put onto a moving roller coaster in a synchronous fashion, there is a degree of historical significance to that section of the article. As such, I believe it should be restored and remain in place as it's an important part of the Disneyland Space Mountain history. That exact version and other similar versions are also found on other sites such as: https://kids.kiddle.co/Space_Mountain_(Disneyland) and also here: https://www.itsasmallworldblog.com/home/building-space-mountain and others.