Talk:Southern Launch

Some proposed changes

I am the media manager for Southern Launch and have some proposed changes to reflect the progress the company has made. This will ensure the information is up-to-date.

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The Whalers Way Orbital Launch Complex is located 45 kilometres (28 miles) south of the South Australian regional city of Port Lincoln at the southern tip of Eyre Peninsula, an important area of coastal conservation, marine sanctuary and native vegetation protection. Pending an environmental review and comment from local residents, the company intends that customers will be able to launch their rockets into orbit over the Great Australian Bight.[when?][needs update]

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2=The Whalers Way Orbital Launch Complex is located 45 kilometres (28 miles) south of the South Australian regional city of Port Lincoln at the southern tip of Eyre Peninsula.

• Reason for the change: This is additional information not relevant to the position of the facility without supporting references.

• References supporting change: https://www.southernlaunch.space/whalers-way-orbital-launch-complex

Morrissey230 (talk) 02:27, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Proposed changes to activities

I am the Media Manager for Southern Launch and have some proposed changes to reflect recent achievements by the company.

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Rockets[edit] In October 2019, Southern Launch signed an agreement with Perigee Aerospace of South Korea to use the Southern Launch rocket facilities from 2020. In February 2020, the company signed a launch service provider contract with DEWC Systems to be the first company to launch a payload aboard a sub-orbital rocket at the recently announced Koonibba Test Range. The launch occurred on 19 September 2020.

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Launches In 2022 Southern Launch worked with customer ATSpace to conduct two launch campaigns from the Whalers Way Orbital Launch Complex. The first campaign in November 2022 ended after a severe storm lashed the area and caused an electrical fault in the launch vehicle. The second campaign in December 2022 attempted to launch the VS02 and VS03 missions. Both missions were aborted during the countdown due to a leak during the fuelling process in the ATSpace launch vehicle. In August 2022 Southern Launch conducted a campaign for customer T-Minus Engineering from the Koonibba Test Range. The mission patch was designed by local Aboriginal artist, Kevina Ware. In October 2019, Southern Launch signed an agreement with Perigee Aerospace of South Korea to use the Southern Launch rocket facilities from 2020. To date, this launch has not taken place due to delays in the manufacturing process. In February 2020, the company signed a launch service provider contract with DEWC Systems to be the first company to launch a payload aboard a sub-orbital rocket at the Koonibba Test Range. The launch occurred on 19 September 2020.

Reason for the change: The information was outdated and didn't reflect recent achievements.

References supporting change: https://www.aumanufacturing.com.au/weekend-lightning-damages-rocket-postponing-whalers-way-launch https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-16/sa-southern-launch-whalers-way-rocket-postponed/101777794 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-21/south-australian-atspace-southern-launch-fail-whalers-way-obital/101797402 https://spacewatch.global/2022/08/local-aboriginal-artist-designs-southern-launchs-upcoming-rocket-launch-mission-patch/

Morrissey230 (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Morrissey230,

Do all 5 refs refer to all the new material? If not, please explain which ones are relevant to which text.

What is a "launch campaign" as distinct from a launch? Can you suggest an alternative to "campaign"?

It would be good to illustrate the article. I can arrange that if you can supply a photo that the copyright owner is willing to make available under the provisions of Creative Commons licence BY 4.0 or BY-SA 4.0 (see https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/). I would prepare a licence for you.

I notice you have proposed deleting, on the grounds that it does not contain a reference, "... Peninsula, an important area of coastal conservation, marine sanctuary and native vegetation protection. Pending an environmental review and comment from local residents, the company intends that customers will be able to launch their rockets into orbit over the Great Australian Bight." I have added a "Citation needed" tag for the time being. Could you bring the 2nd sentence up to date?

PS: I recommend you create an account (see here) so that you are contactable in future. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 03:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@SCHolar44 why do ask them to create an account when Morrissey230 is their account? Lightoil (talk) 03:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

If you click on the red "Morrissey230", Lightoil, you'll see that an account hasn't yet been created (which is why it's red).  :-) SCHolar44 (talk) 03:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

@SCHolar44 that only means that they do not have a user page. They have an account. Lightoil (talk) 03:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SCHolar44

The 4 references refer to the new material. The first three are about the Nov/Dec 2022 launch campaigns. The 4th refers to the Koonibba campaign.

A launch campaign is when we go out on site to conduct everything required for a launch to take place. As none of the launches took place due to faults they cannot be described as a launch. Campaign is a standard word in the space industry.

I think the best way to bring the 2nd sentence up to date is to delete the additional information as I suggested. There is no additional information I can reference to bring it up to date as approvals are going through a government process which has not been published publicly.

Thanks

Amy Morrissey230 (talk) 05:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Reply 26-JUN-2023

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