Talk:Source (album)

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The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 04:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that British jazz saxophonist Nubya Garcia's debut album Source is a reflection of the rich cultural community of London? [1]

• Reviewed: Ruth Wright Hayre

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 11:25, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: DYKcheck shows 3618 characters of prose (includes short quotations). Earwig picks up the longer quotes, but everything else looks good. Joofjoof (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ashleyyoursmile, I was looking to promote this but felt the hook was inadequate. It doesn't say much about the subject while sounding very promotional. Could you suggest some others? For example, if the desire is to convey musical diversity, perhaps include the various genre's covered in the hook. Best, CMD (talk) 16:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, how about this one?

• ALT 1: ... that British jazz saxophonist Nubya Garcia's debut album Source was described as a "grand achievement" in London's buzzing jazz scene? [2]

Please feel free to suggest new hooks. Ashleyyoursmile! 13:11, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ashleyyoursmile, this has a similar issue in that it claims the album was a grand achievement, but gives no information as to why. It would be better to instead include some part of what makes it a grand achievement. Is it the wide variety of influences? It is the themes conveyed through the music? If it is the reflection of a certain London experience, what is that experience? Your hook for Cool for example included specific examples of the pop references it mentioned. CMD (talk) 13:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, thank you for referring to an excellent example. Here's ALT2:

• ALT2: ... that Nubya Garcia's debut album Source, which incorporates dubstep, reggae, Colombian cumbia, calypso, hip-hop, soul, and African-diasporic sounds, is an ode to her musical history? [3][4]

If you want I can cut down some of the genres. Ashleyyoursmile! 15:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

My suggestion would be to remove dubstep, as the sources cited don't give it much prominence, and remove African-diasporic as it is partially redundant to some of the other genres. Would also shorten cumbia to make it match. I'd also keep the "British jazz saxophonist" introduction from your first hook! Like so: CMD (talk) 15:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

• ALT2a: ... that British jazz saxophonist Nubya Garcia's debut album Source, which incorporates reggae, cumbia, calypso, hip-hop, and soul, is an ode to her musical history?

• Chipmunkdavis, sounds perfect to me. Thank you very much. Ashleyyoursmile! 16:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

• Restoring tick. CMD (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)