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March 26, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
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Title of this album

Is the title Songs or Song (singular) of Innocence ? The artwork on the album cover says Song of Innocence it seems. Also consider this review which is pointed at by the article. [1]. Admittedly, it was inspired by Blake's Songs of Innocence. And one song in the album is titled "Song of Innocence". Perhaps the 1968 release was "Song of Innocence" and later re-released as "Songs of Innocence" ? See this link and new artwork for a later re-release in the 1970's where it seems to be "Songs of Innocence". [2]. But the 1968 original album seems to have been "Song of Innocence" ! Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UK vinyl discussion

For future reference, a discussion regarding release information for this article took place here. Dan56 (talk) 10:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Song of Innocence/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tomica (talk · contribs) 19:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are no disambiguation links and there are no dead links. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Maybe you can remove the references for the genre in the infobox and add note that is sourced in the composition? — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. Dan56 (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

It's perfect. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Everything reads good. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: It would be nice to write alts for the pics since you plan to nominate it for FA. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Never been brought up before. I think that might be optional. Dan56 (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2013

(UTC)

Well, it's optional for GAN's, but I think it's necessary all the featured articles to have alts. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 23:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recording

...and began recording in mid 1968. ---> Where is the citation for this? — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Dan56 (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rest is good. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

No words... — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Release and reception

No issues. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

Good! — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tracklisting

No issues.— Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel

Same as above. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Release history

Looks good — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

Link Allmusic in ref number 26 and unlink it in 35 — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Unlinked 35's. "Allmusic" is linked first in 18. Dan56 (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The rest is good

Rest of the sections

Perfect — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering, I don't see any charts... this album didn't chart even at low areas of the Billboard 200? — Tomíca^(T2ME) 22:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No records of it if it did; books, news sources, Billboard.com, etc, nothing unfortunately. Dan56 (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok then. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 23:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ENGVAR

Why isn't this article written in BrEng? Jazzerino (talk) 19:47, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because the album was recorded in America by American musicians. Are you looking for Songs of Innocence and of Experience? Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's the one. Thanks. Jazzerino (talk) 20:29, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 October 2014

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: procedural close--the undiscussed move has now been reverted per Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requests to revert undiscussed moves, and if a discussion about this featured article is warranted it can occur from the stable title. The move discussion archived below had also been listed under a redirect, likely making it impossible for most editors to reach. Dekimasuよ! 23:16, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Song of Innocence (album) → Song of Innocence – Moved without discussion by Werldwayd, warrants discussion first – Dan56 (talk) 22:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's a single by the same artist In ictu oculi (talk) 01:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In ictu oculi, a) there's no single by David Axelrod called "Song of Innocence", and b) (more importantly) there's no article on it even if there was such a single. Dan56 (talk) 06:43, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - ["Song of innocence is a"] in Google Books produces a hit on Terry Scott Taylor's song from album Knowledge and Innocence, 1986, "A Song of Innocence" a Ralph Ellison story. But more to the point there are frequent capitalised references to individual Blake Songs of Innocence collection, which is the primary subject. Blake is a colossus of world culture, this album is a passing piece of derived art. Hence our titling should be recognisable, it's an album, call it an album. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why didn't you bring that up to begin with (as your reason for opposing) instead of what you originally wrote? Dan56 (talk) 08:03, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

? In ictu oculi (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You said that there was "a single by the same artist" here to contest my "‎Request to revert an undiscussed move" (which this was) and then above here. Why? Dan56 (talk) 18:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

NoraJune (talk) 00:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC) Hi. I'm brand new to editing wikipedia and I was looking at this article as an example since it's featured. I noted that there is actually one little error. The first link to David Axelrod in the Background section, is linked to the politician of that name, not to the musician. I just thought I'd let you know. Take care![reply]

Congrats

... on the Main Page appearance. The Spoken WP template at the bottom of the article looks funny to me, though. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:00, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it does, but I posted it per the instructions for posting spoken word articles. --Pilot Dawg (talk) 15:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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