Talk:Something There

Sources

I did a quick search on the internet for sources and couldn't really find much besides the ones you've already included. Anticipating you might be struggling a little bit, I did a deeper search and pulled up these from Google Scholar. I have included the miniquote from Google Scholar search to give you a taste of what the source might be hiding. (I don't have the ability to read many of these):--Coin945 (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Also these:

1. Even though Keane supervised the core of Beauty and the Beast, he was not allowed to observe Robby Benson’s performance in the studio. When he did finally hear Benson’s work, specifically the iconic song “Something There,” he truly bought into the concept of love between Belle and The Beast.
2. "We had storyboarded the Human Again sequence for the original production, but completely reworked it for this special edition of the film. We discovered that there was a perfect place for the song following 'Something There' and it added a greater emotional depth to the story. A new scene with Cogsworth instructing the staff to create the most romantic atmosphere known to man or beast sets up the song beautifully."
   
   "Even though a favorite of the filmmakers and songwriters, the song was finally replaced by the shorter "Something There." However, in 1994 when Alan Menken took Beauty and the Beast to Broadway, he discovered a way to work the show-stopping tune into the stage musical."
3. http://www.halleonard.com/broadwayjr/beautyBeastJr.jsp

Thanks. I'll take a look at these. They should be helpful. I'll be removingg them from here as I gradually insert them.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:57, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

That one news article you removed described the song as lively. Not sure if you picked up on that. :)--Coin945 (talk) 03:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I did I included it in the "Reception" section. Will probably add it to the "Composition" section once I figure out a way.--Changedforbetter (talk) 03:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Something There/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Luthien22 (talk · contribs) 21:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy to review another article nominated by @ChangedfortheBetter:

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   As always, excellent.

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

   No issues.

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   There is a hefty references section.

   B. Citations to reliable sources, where necessary:

   Excellent references. No use of blogs, and many uses of academic sources and books. I'm surprised you were able to find this many good sources.

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   Covers almost every aspect of the song, including composition, performance, and reception. This article could probably benefit from a little bit more coverage on its use in the Broadway production, but since it's not a major part of that show, the current coverage is perfectly fine if you can't find anything more.

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

   Very stable. As always for Disney articles, I recommend staying extra alert for possible vandalism or non encyclopedic good faith edits, as these articles are more prone to attract that.

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   As on the last GA I conducted on a song article, I also counted sound files under this category. Both files, the image and the sound file, are properly licensed.

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

   The one image provided is sufficient, and the 20 second sound file is also sufficient.

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   This was an easy article to pass. Nice job, all editors.

• Woooowwww well that was quick and painless, lol. Thank you so much!!!--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

A source

I already put this in the B&B talk page, but reading it in full, there's actually some great stuff for Something There:

"And we thought that once Beast had saved Belle’s life, that that was enough to earn this dance. This moment with her falling in love. And so we had the – the story went that way. And when we got to this sequence where Beast and Belle dance, which was just in the storyboard at the time, we had a screening. And there was a feeling like this movie is not working. I don’t believe. We haven’t earned this moment for Belle and Beast to fall in love. It feels like we’re forcing it. Feels like the artist’s hand is sort of making people believe this, trying desperately, but it’s not working. What is it? And at that point Howard Ashman came in with this song that I think really turned the corner for us. The “Something There” song. And I had always felt that Robby Benson should have a moment in this movie where he could actually sing. The guy’s got a great voice. A baritone base voice. It’s very soft and gentle. And so this song, “There’s Something There” was written. And what was wonderful is it was a very small little thing that the movie turned on. You know Beast giving Belle the library. It was – that was the thing that he had noticed what was special to this girl, and he gave her this gift. And it was really cool just to see how the story, you suddenly believed it after that. And before that song was written, you didn’t."

"But something was missing. You didn’t really feel like you earned this dance. And at that point, Howard Ashman, who had really created the tent poles for our story, realized that we were missing an extremely important tent pole, and he wrote a song called something – “There’s Something There,” this moment where Beast gives Belle the library. And it was so subtle and gentle of a thing that it had escaped us, that true love isn’t just like Beast going and battling the wolves seemed like, “OK, well that’s the dramatic indication of his love for her.” But it was him noticing how this girl loved to read and that he presents her with the library. And it was the little things that just – like a flower growing, that’s what that song was about. And as soon as that was written, we knew the movie was going to work. Until that point, it just – and that happened pretty – very late, that last year, actually, in production. So we didn’t know that it was going to work until that point."

[1]--Coin945 (talk) 17:56, 3 June 2015 (UTC)