Talk:Somebody to Love (Jefferson Airplane song)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Somebody to Love (Jefferson Airplane song) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Songs

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles

Rock music High‑importance

	Rock music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Rock music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Rock music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Rock musicWikipedia:WikiProject Rock musicTemplate:WikiProject Rock musicRock music articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

The Queen version of this song isn't a cover at all. SchnappM 04:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was also covered by Boogie Pimps.

Image copyright problem with Image:Jeffair.jpg

The image Image:Jeffair.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --23:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Psychedelic or Not?

Can someone please explain to me what makes this song psychedelic? Sure, it might be a good song to listen to on psychedelic drugs and, of course, this song was a part of the 60's counterculture. I can see why "White Rabbit" is a psychedelic rock song, but why not list this song as just "Rock" and not "Psychedelic rock"? I'm trying, but I just don't hear the psychedelic aspects of this song. Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing song and has amazing guitar, but psychedelic? I wouldn't say so.

I'm posting this here to avoid a flame war. 67.167.122.60 (talk) 11:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wave on! The genre was changed three months ago without discussion and no one caught it. I reverted it. Happy trails! Radiopathy •talk• 01:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Second singer

Listen very closely and you will hear a second, male singer on the refrain. He is not quite in synch, he sings a fraction of an instant later. Towards the end he sings higher: "Don't you want somebody to love" etc. all with the male voice in background. Once you hear it, it's spooky. Who is he? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.15.119.52 (talk) 02:22, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Boogie Pimps' cover/remix?

They're the same song, and there are multiple instances of various versions of a song being on one page, after all. --Qwerty Binary (talk) 10:20, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 19:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody to Love (Jefferson Airplane song) → Somebody to Love (Darby Slick song) – Or Somebody to Love (Grace Slick song)? Grace Slick first joined The Great Society and then Jefferson Airplane. The Great Society was the first band to sing the song; Jefferson Airplane later sang the song. Both had Grace Slick as their lead vocal of the song. The song was written by her brother-in-law, Darby Slick. Say, who has heard of Darby Slick or Grace Slick or The Great Society nowadays? I wouldn't choose the current title or Somebody to Love (The Great Society song), but you choose whatever fits best. --Relisted. Dekimasuよ! 02:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC) George Ho (talk) 03:05, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Somebody to Love (The Great Society song) only. There are guidelines and precedents that songs are disambiguated by the artist, not the singer or songwriter(s). There are also precedents that songs are disambiguated by the first artist. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:52, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The version by The Great Society wasn't called "Somebody to Love," so that would be quite anachronistic. Dekimasuよ! 22:20, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question - I always thought there was a guideline that directed us to have the disambiguation be the first artist of the song, but I can't find it. Can someone help me out?--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~WP:SONGDAB for Yaksar; it usually encourages either first artist's or songwriter's name. --George Ho (talk) 23:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)~~[reply]

I was wrong; WP:NCM doesn't mention how to disambiguate. Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Album article style guide is an unofficial MOS, so it can't be a guideline officially. --George Ho (talk) 02:44, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm missing where it is on the Wikiproject page too.--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Check "Bands, albums and songs" section of WP:NCM; also, "Naming" section of Wikiproject. --George Ho (talk) 06:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still missing it, George Ho. I'm not sure if I'm just really bad at picking things out right now, but would you mind specifically quoting or pointing out the paragraph with the line for me. I can't find it even when I search the page for the word "first".--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me that it doesn't mention it either. Perhaps someone must have misinterpreted, and I misinterpreted also. --George Ho (talk) 19:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And I don't think Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs mentions using first artist's name either. --George Ho (talk) 19:36, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I actually said was, "There are also precedents that songs are disambiguated by the first artist." and here's a couple of precedents, please check out the talkpages too, Fever (Little Willie John song), Blue (Bill Mack song). There are others, too. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:08, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, that's so surprising, I always assumed it was in a written guideline. I can obviously see the logic behind following the precedent, especially since in most cases the first version is either the best known version or, if there are multiple, is at least a rival in significance. But I feel like there's something somewhat confusing about titling a page for a song that is known almost 100% for a specific artist as another. And yet at the same time having a consistency is good. I don't know, I'll have to think on this a bit.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tenuous conclusion (but we see lots of them at RMs), but WP:NSONG says, "Songs with notable cover versions are normally covered in one common article about the song and the cover versions." As the Great Society was the original recording everything coming after that are "cover versions"...--Richhoncho (talk) 09:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. What is the point of a disambiguator that makes a song harder to find? The vast majority of readers think of this as a Jefferson Airplane song, or at least that is what Google search would suggest. Confabulationist (talk) 23:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a problem as the present title would still be a direct. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:36, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Readers will look up at the title and think they are at the wrong article. That's a whole lot more likely than someone typing the exact phrase "Somebody to Love (Jefferson Airplane song)" into the search box. Confabulationist (talk) 01:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's not much we can do about stupidity! --Richhoncho (talk) 10:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of problems here: the version of the song by The Great Society was called "Someone to Love," not "Somebody to Love." Also, the album it was on was released only after the Jefferson Airplane version (I'm not sure about the single version, however). It seems like the choices are Someone to Love (The Great Society song) or Somebody to Love (Jefferson Airplane song), or these can just be treated as separate topics and the current page can stay as is with Someone to Love (The Great Society song) redirecting elsewhere. Dekimasuよ! 22:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to go ahead and oppose the proposed move, since we don't seem inclined to discuss the possibility of Someone to Love (The Great Society song) or the problem with the proposed title. Dekimasuよ! 00:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. An iconic recording. Don't fix what ain't bust. Andrewa (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

vocalist for boogie pimps version

The vocals are clearly not Grace Slick as they are softer and younger soudning. Who is the vocalist for this version?

thanks Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Someone or Somebody?

Both recordings by GS available at YouTube clearly use 'somebody'.

Needs a Cultural Reference Section?

Shouldn't this song have its own section that showcases when it has been used in various media or referenced as such? I can't even count on two hands the various times I've heard this song used in iconic movies, TV shows, and other mediums.--47.156.92.162 (talk) 23:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]