Talk:Solomon, King of Hungary/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Caponer (talk · contribs) 14:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Upon an initial review, this article looks as if it meets most criteria for Good Article status! I will be re-reviewing the article more thoroughly within the next day or so and will share my comments and suggestions here. Editors should feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns in the meantime. -- Caponer (talk) 14:15, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work, in advance. Borsoka (talk) 14:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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First and foremost Borsoka, I'd like to thoroughly commend you on a job well done in researching and crafting this very broad and comprehensive article. While I have some familiarity with the history of the Hungarian monarchy, I was not as familiar with Solomon, so it was a great pleasure to review this informative article. As I stated before following my initial review, this article meets all the above criteria for Good Article status. I do, however, have a few comments and suggestions that should be addressed before we move on to passing this article for Good Article status. Please take a look at my below comments and suggestions and please let me know if you have any questions or concern with any one of these. Once again, it has been a privilege reviewing this article, and I look forward to your future articles documenting the biographies of Hungarian monarchs! -- Caponer (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your careful review and for your kind words. Please find my comments below. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the first paragraph of the article's lead, there is an internal citation following Solomon's name. I would suggest utilizing one of the many types of footnotes for explanatory notes to further explain the alternative spellings of Solomon's name in English (or in other languages even). Just as an example, I've used two types of explanatory footnotes in: List of colleges and universities in Washington, D.C. and Gabriel Jones (Virginia).
- Thank you. I deleted the reference instead, because alternative footnotes are not used in GAs of the Hungarian monarchs (see Stephen I of Hungary, Álmos, etc.). I think we should be consequent. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Since this is a biography and the entire article deals with Solomon's life, you may want to reorganize the article so that instead of having an all encompassing section entitled "Life," divide the article into sections: "Early life," "Reign," "Abdication," and "Later years" or "Later life" (for consistency with the former "Early life"). Then "Family," etc. etc.
- Thank you. Modified. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The quoted text from the The Hungarian Illuminated Chronicle is in chronological order with the article's prose, but I'm not sure whether it's necessary. Could its contents be woven into the prose, and internally cited to The Hungarian Illuminated Chronicle instead?
- Thank you. I would prefer not to modify, because the present structure is in line with the one applied in other GAs (see Andrew I of Hungary, Béla I of Hungary, etc.) Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to add a comma following "In the summer of 1063..." in the fifth paragraph of "Early life."
- Thank you. Added. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Similar to the above comment on the quoted text from the Chronicle, would it be possible to paraphrase or weave this quote into the prose?
- Thank you. I would prefer not to modify, as per above. I think the quotation of texts from primary sources is important, because they illustrate the main text of the article, similarly to the pictures. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For the mentions of Trencsén, Kerlés, and Syrmium, it may be appropriate to add "present-day" in front of their present names and respective countries.
- Thank you. Added. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Since the quoted text from The Deeds of the Hungarians comes at the end of "Last years," it seems to be a fitting end to this biographical illustration, as this wouldn't be as easy to weave into the prose like the other two instances of quoted text mentioned above. If you decide to keep the quoted text from Deeds, I'd suggest leading into the quote with a sentence that introduces it and provides context.
- Thank you. I would prefer not to modify, as per above. I think there is no need to introduce quotations, because they only give a context to the main text of the article. Borsoka (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Borsoka, thank you so incredibly much for your timely response in addressing my above comments and suggestions! I'd like to reiterate that you've completed yet another spectacular article, and it was a pleasure reviewing this one! I'm fine with the quotations remaining in their current form. I hereby pass this article to Good Article status! -- Caponer (talk) 03:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]