Talk:SoftBank Vision Fund
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You should update the AUMs
[edit]2 year old AUMs listed here.
People should be aware of the amazing growth the vision fund has had in the last 2 years 87.224.40.223 (talk) 17:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
1 November 2023 Edit Request
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Hi, I have a Conflict of Interest and would like to request the following changes on behalf of SoftBank Vision Fund.
The article is in need of a number of changes, not least because of the actions of three users who have been banned as a sockpuppet ring. These users (Libermercatus, NAIDEPKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin) added some material which breaks Wikipedia’s rules on Neutral Point of View, and looking at the History pages of these accounts, constitute a coordinated attack. As such, among these changes I have nominated some sections of text for removal as they were added in bad faith.
Please can the following changes be made:
Edit request 1-Nov-2023
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1. Within the Infobox, can the location image caption be changed to Palo Alto, California and the AUM updated to $166 billion[1]. 2. To clarify to the SoftBank Vision Fund structure, can the first sentence of the lead be changed to read as follows: The SoftBank Vision Fund is a venture capital fund founded in 2017. It is managed by SoftBank Investment Advisers, a subsidiary of 3. Remove the following sentence from the lead, as it was added by NAIDEPIKIW NONA of the sockpuppet group, using a commentary/opinion piece as a citation (currently number 6) rather than a news article: (diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SoftBank_Vision_Fund&diff=1138925964&oldid=1133863383) By 2023, the dismal performance of the fund had cast a shadow over the initial exuberance of both the fund and Masayoshi Son, the founder and largest shareholder of the SoftBank Group. 4. Can the second paragraph under History be edited down as the investor list is outdated and is incorrect; Vision Fund 2 was launched only with capital from Softbank Group: In July 2019, SoftBank announced the creation of SoftBank Vision Fund 2[2]. 5. In the third paragraph of the History section, can the first sentence be amended to read as follows: In January 2020, in response to a decline in activities brought on by the Covid 19 pandemic, multiple Softbank-funded startups started cutting their staff, such as at Getaround, Oyo, Rappi, Katerra and Zume.[11] 6. Again in the third paragraph of the History section, the current text makes some correlations and oversimplifications. Can the following changes to be made: With many portfolio companies of the first fund not performing well and high profile 7. In the fourth paragraph of the History section, certain sentences contradict WP:CRYSTALBALL. Can the paragraph be amended as follows: In May 2021, SoftBank announced the total fair value of both funds as of 31 March 2021 was $154 billion and the Vision Funds made a record profit of $36.99 billion in part successful 8. The fifth and sixth paragraphs of the History section were added as part of the prolonged sockpuppet attack by NAIDEPIKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin on a timescale from August 2022 to April 2023. Can these attacks be removed:
9. The penultimate and final paragraphs of the History section also contain such attacks from these two editors in the same time period and should be removed:
10. Can the final paragraph of the Business overview section be removed as it is just repetition of information found in the History section:
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Many thanks in advance for helping to fix the damage done by this sock network and to bring the article up to date. Manelila (talk) 17:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Reply 1-NOV-2023
[edit]- The request cannot be reviewed because several portions of the requested text do not include working citations. Instead, it appears as if numbers have been placed within brackets (i.e., [1][2], etc.) This makes the request more difficult to review, because the references which are connected to the text cannot be established with a good level of certainty.
- To that end, the COI editor is kindly asked to submit a new edit request below this reply post at their earliest convenience, taking care to ensure that all the references are included with the proposed text to be added / deleted.
Regards, Spintendo 02:08, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
6 November 2023 Edit Request
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. The request was not formatted correctly. |
Hi, I have a Conflict of Interest and would like to request the following changes on behalf of SoftBank Vision Fund.
The article is in need of a number of changes, mostly because of the actions of three users who have been banned as a sockpuppet ring. These users (Libermercatus, NAIDEPIKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin) added some material which breaks Wikipedia’s rules on Neutral Point of View, and looking at the Contributions of these accounts, constitute a coordinated attack.
As such, among these changes I have nominated some sections of text for removal because they were added in bad faith.
This version of the request has been updated as per User:Spintendo’s instructions to provide links for the bracketed numbers indicating references already in use in the live article. I have used the citation tool to do this. As noted on Talk:Rajeev Misra, I have used underline to indicate suggested new material and strikethrough to suggest material for deletion, with the exception of point 3.
Please can the following changes be made:
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1. Within the Infobox, can the location image caption be changed to Palo Alto, California and the AUM updated to $166 billion[1]. 2. To clarify to the SoftBank Vision Fund structure, can the first sentence of the lead be changed to read as follows: The SoftBank Vision Fund is a venture capital fund founded in 2017. It is managed by SoftBank Investment Advisers, a subsidiary of 3. Remove the following sentence from the lead, as it was added by NAIDEPIKIW NONA of the sockpuppet group, using a commentary/opinion piece as a citation[2] rather than a news article: (diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SoftBank_Vision_Fund&diff=1138925964&oldid=1133863383) By 2023, the dismal performance of the fund had cast a shadow over the initial exuberance of both the fund and Masayoshi Son, the founder and largest shareholder of the SoftBank Group.[2] 4. Can the second paragraph under History be edited down as the investor list is outdated and is incorrect; Vision Fund 2 was launched only with capital from Softbank Group: In July 2019, SoftBank announced the creation of SoftBank Vision Fund 2[3]. 5. In the third paragraph of the History section, can the first sentence be amended to read as follows: In 6. Again in the third paragraph of the History section, the current text makes some correlations and oversimplifications. Can the following changes to be made: With many portfolio companies of the first fund not performing well and high profile 7. In the fourth paragraph of the History section, certain sentences contradict WP:CRYSTALBALL. Can the paragraph be amended as follows: In May 2021, SoftBank announced the total fair value of both funds as of 31 March 2021 was $154 billion and the Vision Funds made a record profit of $36.99 billion in part successful 8. The fifth and sixth paragraphs of the History section were added as part of the prolonged sockpuppet attack by NAIDEPIKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin on a timescale from August 2022 to April 2023. Can these attacks be removed:
9. The penultimate and final paragraphs of the History section also contain such attacks from these two editors in the same time period and should be removed:
10. Can the final paragraph of the Business overview section be removed as it is just repetition of information found in the History section:
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Many thanks in advance for helping to fix the damage done by this sock network and to bring the article up to date. Manelila (talk) 19:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Reply 8-NOV-2023
[edit]- Your edit request could not be reviewed because of the unusual way the requested prose utilizes numbers in brackets along with ref tags. Normally there is no need to manually place additional numbers in brackets at the end of sentences to signify citations, because the MediaWiki software already accomplishes this by placing numbered ref notes in brackets automatically. The placement of additional numbers in brackets at the end of the COI editor's requested sentences has rendered the request un-reviewable, because it is not known what is meant by these extra numbers.[a]
- The COI editor is kindly asked to reformat their request so that it does not include these extra numbers in brackets, and to submit that reformatted request in a new edit request below this reply post. Additionally, the COI editor is asked not to use shortened ref names in their request.
If you have any questions about this, please don't hesitate to ask on my talk page.
Notes
- ^ This may have to do with the fact that I had asked in a previous review for ref notes to be placed in the article, which adds numbers in brackets to the text. The COI editor appears to have placed additional numbers in brackets in their request, and if this was done in order to appease my earlier review, then I apologize for the miscommunication. The COI editor should be aware that the software will automatically place these numbers in brackets as long as the ref notes are placed and formatted properly, so there is no need to manually place numbers in brackets. If the CUI editor has any additional questions or concerns about how to accomplish this formatting, they are more than welcome to ask me on my talk page, I would be happy to offer any help and suggestions that I can.
Regards, Spintendo 08:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
23 November 2023 Edit Request
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I have a Conflict of Interest and would like to request the following changes on behalf of SoftBank Vision Fund. This is the same request as above, but with the formatting changes requested by @Spintendo. The numbers in square brackets from the previous request referred to citations which were already present in the article. As I am either asking for these to be deleted or they dont require review, I thought it would be helpful to differentiate them. I have removed all of these extra notes as apparently the format was confusing, but please do note that I am not the editor who added these references to the article as it stands.
My main concern is removing the actions of three users who have been banned as a sockpuppet ring. These users (Libermercatus, NAIDEPIKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin) added material which breaks Wikipedia’s rules on Neutral Point of View, and looking at the Contributions of these accounts, constitute a coordinated attack.
As noted on Talk:Rajeev Misra, I have used underline to indicate suggested new material and strikethrough to suggest material for deletion. Regular text without either of these was already in the article.
Please can the following changes be made:
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1. Within the Infobox, can the location image caption be changed to Palo Alto, California and the AUM updated to $166 billion[1]. 2. To clarify to the SoftBank Vision Fund structure, can the first sentence of the lead be changed to read as follows: The SoftBank Vision Fund is a venture capital fund founded in 2017. It is managed by SoftBank Investment Advisers, a subsidiary of 3. Remove the following sentence from the lead, as it was added by NAIDEPIKIW NONA of the sockpuppet group, using a commentary/opinion piece as a citation[2] rather than a news article: (diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SoftBank_Vision_Fund&diff=1138925964&oldid=1133863383)
4. Can the second paragraph under History be edited down as the investor list is outdated and is incorrect; Vision Fund 2 was launched only with capital from Softbank Group: In July 2019, SoftBank announced the creation of SoftBank Vision Fund 2[3]. 5. In the third paragraph of the History section, can the first sentence be amended to read as follows: In 6. Again in the third paragraph of the History section, the current text makes some correlations and oversimplifications. Can the following changes to be made: With many portfolio companies of the first fund not performing well and high profile 7. In the fourth paragraph of the History section, certain sentences contradict WP:CRYSTALBALL. Can the paragraph be amended as follows: In May 2021, SoftBank announced the total fair value of both funds as of 31 March 2021 was $154 billion and the Vision Funds made a record profit of $36.99 billion in part successful 8. The fifth and sixth paragraphs of the History section were added as part of the prolonged sockpuppet attack by NAIDEPIKIW NONA and Aarfrunzindin on a timescale from August 2022 to April 2023. Can these attacks be removed:
9. The penultimate and final paragraphs of the History section also contain such attacks from these two editors in the same time period and should be removed:
10. Can the final paragraph of the Business overview section be removed as it is just repetition of information found in the History section:
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Hopefully this all makes sense now! Manelila (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- We need to have reasons for these changes being made. Specifically, #5 and #6 do not have reasons attached to the request. Also, you state that text from these sockpuppets is to be removed, but you have not provided proof that the text was inserted by these editors. Please provide the
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for each entry. Any other information regarding why the SP material should be removed should also be provided (e.g., it's incorrect because of blank reason _____). When ready to proceed, kindly change the request template to read from from|ans=y
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. Regards, Spintendo 23:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Spintendo I was under the impression that material added by confirmed sockpuppets was typically removed from Wikipedia? These additions in particular all violate Neutral point of view in their tone and presentation of sources due to their undisclosed motivation.
- Here are the reasons for each change above:
- 1. updating to correct location and most recent figures.
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to clarify the SoftBank Vision Fund structure
- 3. Sock addition, violation of NPOV, citation is commentary, not a news article
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the investor list is outdated and is incorrect; Vision Fund 2 was launched only with capital from Softbank Group
- 5. The phrasing here notes that staff cuts occurred in 2020, but this was in part due to the pandemic.
- 6. clarifications and cuts for better understanding and to reduce
correlations and oversimplifications
- 7.
certain sentences contradict WP:CRYSTALBALL
"it might consider trying again", "could become public" - 10. Repetition
- Please see the diff proofs of sustained sock interference here:
- Aarfrunzindin
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1150826221
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1151040626
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1151041154
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1154620507
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1155669681
- NAIDEPIKIW NONA
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1104355976
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1104356121
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1104360150
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1112472120
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1112480262
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1113994476
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1121251522
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138925964
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138927047
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138932999
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138933440
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138934336
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1138934672
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1139473189
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1141434942
- Thanks, Manelila (talk) 17:46, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Reply 3-DEC-2023
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