Talk:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)/Archive 1
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Correct fairy tale name
The Grimm Fairy Tale concerned is not this one but "Snow white". Wetman 05:50, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- You are right. On first go-round I couldn't find "Snow White" under Grimm, just the Disney version. I will correct. -- Cecropia | Talk 07:26, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Incorrect move
The page that was moved to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) needs to be moved back to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The fairy tale that Walt Disney's film originates from is simply titled Snow White (there are two; both are mentioned in the article) , not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I am already working to get moderator assistance to do this. --FuriousFreddy 13:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Grimm fairy tale
FuriousFreddy amended my changes to the disambiguation header: is the Brothers Grimm fairy tale entitled Snow White (or Snow-White) or, as I suspect and those article indicate, Snow-White and Rose-Red? -- ALoan (Talk) 10:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Snow White (Schneewittchen) is the one. Snow-White and Rose-Red (Schneeweißchen und Rosenrot) is a completely different story. In fact, I don't quite understand where your confusion comes from: the latter article quite clearly states that the story has nothing to do with the movie. Lupo 11:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This is correct. I can see where it can be confusing, but this film is indeed based upon Snow-White, not Snow-White and Rose-Red. --FuriousFreddy 11:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Wired for sound
I've heard the film was the first to have a soundtrack album lifted directly from the audio track. Confirm & include? Trekphiler 07:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Mention should be made of the writer of the music and songs in Snow White ("One Song", "Some Day My Prince Will Come", "I'm Wishing", "With a Smile and a Song", "Whistle While You Work", "Heigh Ho (Dwarfs' Digging and Marching Song) ", "Bluddle-uddle-um-dum (Dwarfs' Washing and Yodel Song) ", "(Isn't This) A Silly Song", "Snow White (Overture) ", "Music in Your Soup" and "You're Never Too Old to Be Young") It's Frank Churchill (born 20 October 1901, Rumford, Maine, USA, died 14 May 1942, Castaic, California, USA).
- He also wrote "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf", and (for "Breaking the Ice (1938) songs as "Happy As a Lark", "Put Your Heart in a Song" and "The Sunny Side of Things", as well as the songs "Love Is a Song", "I Bring You a Song", "Little April Shower", "Let's Sing a Gay Little Spring Song" for Bambi (1942). Wondermole —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.83.85.194 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 5 February 2006
New project
I want to see if anyone is interested in creating sections for each Disney animated feature that mention differences between the film and the non-Disney version of the story. For example:
In the Disney film, the dwarfs are named Happy, Dopey, etc. but in the original fairy tale, the dwarfs have no names.
Some films don't get sections like this, and these are The Lion King, The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear, and Home on the Range.
Any opinions about this?? Georgia guy 02:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Other languages
I (again) removed improper capitalization from the Italian, French and German titles. The habit of capitlizing words in titles is not valid for every language. In Italian, French and German (among several others) the usual capitalization rules are followed. As far as I know this should apply to Spanish too but since I am not sure I didn't change it. Matteo 15:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Same goes for most languages -- a lot of the names in the language section need to be changed, but I don't feel like looking up the capitalization rules for each language, so I just did the Swedish one. • 辻斬り? 10:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Other language names for the dwarfs
The Dutch names of the dwarfs are Bloosje (Bashful) , Doc (Doc) , Dommel (Sleepy) , Giechel (Happy) , Grumpie (Grumpy) , Niezel (Sneezy) and Stoetel (Dopey). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.195.78.97 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 23 April 2006
The Greek names of the dwarfs are Γκρινιάρης (Grumpy) , Καλόκαρδος (Happy) , Ντροπαλός (Bashful) , Σοφός (Doc) , Συναχομένος (Sneezy) , Υπναράς (Sleepy) and Χαζούλης (Dopey). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.193.165.47 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 11 June 2006
- I have added the Dutch name of the dwarfs.
"Minimum length of an animated feature"???
One entry in the trivia section has this written: "Snow White is the first movie that follows the present rule of minimum length of an animated feature, which is at least 70 minutes in running time." Can anyone tell me where this information is taken from? According to wikipedia's entry on "feature film", "The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the American Film Institute, and the British Film Institute all define a feature as a film with a running time of forty minutes or longer." Esn 03:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- RULE SEVEN
- SPECIAL RULES FOR THE BEST ANIMATED FEATURE FILM AWARD
- I. DEFINITION
- An animated feature film is defined as a motion picture of at least 70 minutes in running time and where a significant number of the major characters in the film are animated, and animation figures in no less than 75% of the picture's running time.
- Link: http://www.oscars.org/74academyawards/rules/rule07.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.216.91.86 (talk • contribs) 06:42, 2 May 2006
The first one?
Released on May 19, 1937, Academy Award Review of Walt Disney Cartoons was a collection of five of Disney's Oscar-winning shorts (Flowers and Trees, Three Little Pigs, The Tortoise and the Hare, Three Orphan Kittens, and The Country Cousin) , a package film with bridging title cards and narrator. Does it qualify to be called an animated feature from Disney? The combined running time of the shorts gives a movie with about the length of that of Saludos Amigos, which is considered a feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.222.121.79 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 27 May 2006
Poster Size
I uploaded the larger version of the 1937 poster, by which it has better resolution. --PJ Pete
Commentary on 1994 Video release
The article states that there is a commentary by Roy O. Disney, Walt Disney's younger brother, before the start of the film. He died in 1971, twenty three years before the release of this video. Was this an archived commentary that was put before the film, or was it actually done by his son, Roy E. Disney? 65.34.154.254 13:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Just so ya know,Roy O. Disney was Walt's OLDER BROTHER,SO IT'S AUTOMATICLLY A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S,Commentaries are for DVD's and Laserdisces ONLY,SO IT'S ANGAIN A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.190.179 (talk) 17:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
About the list of "Snow White (and/or "Dwarfs" in other languages"
Leave it off, please. Such a long, gangly list serves no purpose in a serious encyclopedia article. Such lists are not used in other film-related articles, so they should not be used here. --FuriousFreddy 06:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Plot section
Err... shouldn't this article have one? Seems like a bit of a glaring omission to me... Esn 10:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
lyrics needed
please put in the lyrics for the snow white songs
- The song lyrics don't need to be on the page. A link to a site that has them, perhaps, but not the lyrics themselves. That poses all sorts of copyright things. Spartacusprime 17:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Television
As of 2006, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is one of three Disney full-length animated classics that still have never been shown complete on television. The others are Fantasia, and Song of the South.
"Never been shown complete" - so which parts of the film have not been shown?
Also, are we only talking about the USA here, because I'm sure Song of the South has been shown complete on British television. 217.155.20.163 01:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Then change it to As of 2006, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is one of three Disney full-length animated classics that still have never been shown complete on US television. The others are Fantasia, and Song of the South. JohnathanZX4 18:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Song of the South is not considered a full-length animated feature. I've made the correction. If someone wants to do some rewording to reinclude it, go ahead.--Son of lucas (talk) 05:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Trademarks or just copyrighted??
Is this film trademarked or just copyrighted?? Georgia guy 22:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- You can't trademark a film. You copyright it. You can trademark a film's title, but I'm not sure if Disney was/would be able to trademark "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". --FuriousFreddy 04:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
If I understand copyright correctly, Copyright protection on this film in many countries will end in 2036. (Year of death of Walt Disney - 1966 plus 70 years) Yet the soundtrack should already be in the public domain.(Year of first publication + 50 years). Can anybody confirm the film's copyright status for the article? vk6hgr 05:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure Snow White would fall under corporate authorship, so it would be 95 years or 2032 when enters public domain. I'd be shocked if it happened in my lifetime though. The Disney folks would never let their ownership of their characters and movies pass into public domain without a huge fight. Disney makes literally billions of dollars off of these characters. Congress and the artistic community are sympathetic to copyright claims so they likely won't have to fight too hard.--Son of lucas (talk) 09:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
The film vs. the Bros. Grimm story
Shouldn't there be a section ticking off the differences between the film version and the original Grimm story? Tom129.93.17.135 03:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Dwarf names
The list of rejected dwarf names is a magnet for vandalism. I just took it back to what User:Testbed originally put in this edit. Also, Amazon's page for Gabler's book mentions a list of dwarf names. -- 77.97.182.56 11:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
First full-length animated feature with sound?
"the first full-length animated feature with sound" -> The Wikipedia list of animated feature-length films says that there was an earlier one in 1931: "Peludópolis (Argentina) , the world's first animated feature film with sound, by Quirino Cristiani". (22. Nov. 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.146.211 (talk) 12:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's not. I changed the introduction to reflect that. The problem is that this myth is so widespread that people keep changing it back. Esn (talk) 07:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, but you're really over-estimating Peludópolis and denying the historic achievement of Snow White from featuring in the lead. In the first place, Persepolis was monochromatic. Second, the "audio" for Peludópolis was on disc, not integrated into the film stock. Lose the disc, fail to synch it up right, and bingo-bango, you don't have a talkie anymore. It's not a myth to call Snow White the first color animated feature with optical sound, so I'm changing the lead. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 21:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- It certainly was a great achievement, as it is almost certain that Disney didn't know about those earlier features. He was a real pioneer as far as he and his country were concerned; news could take decades to travel back then. It wasn't just Peludopolis, though; in 1937, both The Tale of the Fox and The Seven Ravens were released a few months before Snow White in Germany, and they had optical sound. But yes, it is correct to call Snow White "the first color animated feature with optical sound". Esn (talk) 06:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but you're really over-estimating Peludópolis and denying the historic achievement of Snow White from featuring in the lead. In the first place, Persepolis was monochromatic. Second, the "audio" for Peludópolis was on disc, not integrated into the film stock. Lose the disc, fail to synch it up right, and bingo-bango, you don't have a talkie anymore. It's not a myth to call Snow White the first color animated feature with optical sound, so I'm changing the lead. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 21:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but The Seven Ravens and the Tale of the Fox were *stop motion* animated. And to me stop motion animation, since it films real life physical objects, is still basically a subset of *live action* film making and not truly pure animation like cell drawings or even computer. So, like many things it's a matter of schematics. Same thing with Prince Achmed, that was basically filming silhouetted cut outs, again that's live action to me. And comparing the crude very sketchy and limited animated Peludopolis with Snow White is like comparing ice cream with horse manure. Peludo is basically a longer version of the old "newspaper comic strip" style of animating while Snow White was truly the next giant step in animation in both artistic and technical terms, in other words a true real unique achievementm unlike the other 'feature length' cartoons that supposedly went before. I think Snow White should still be considered the "first fully animated feature with sound", but others may disagree.
Dopey's Story and Mitchie Loses?
Dopey's Story and Mitchie Loses? --Chinneebmy talk 05:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
"Release date not film premiere date"
On June 26, an anonymous IP made this edit, changing the infobox to say "February 4, 1938" instead of "December 21, 1937", with the rationale that that section of the infobox is for the "RELEASE date" rather than the "premiere date".
This goes against WP:FilmRelease, so I am adding the earlier date back in. Esn (talk) 06:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry; I thought film premieres were not to be listed, since they aren't open to the general public. --70.119.13.45 (talk) 23:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Deleted Scenes
I've removed the deleted scenes section of this article. Per consensus at the Film project, such a section is not notable and should not be added to an article unless there is significant coverage of those deleted scenes in reliable, third party sources (and then such scenes should be discussed in the production section). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Article clean up
I've restructured the article to better meet the Film MoS. The plot still needs to be cut down. At 671 words, its too long for a short animated film. The whole article is in massive need of sourcing for all the claims made, and some of the few sources are self-published and fail WP:RS. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
AnmaFinotera
I am working on the article. Would you mind not repeated reverting it? QaBobAllah (talk) 19:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've already fixed the plot since you said "so fix it" and I didn't want to keep dealing with the tag being removed without the plot really being fixed. In the future, instead of continuing to remove the plot tag without fixing it, perhaps start a discussion saying why you disagree with the tag. You appear to be a relatively new editor, but you have been welcomed and thus should know WP:BRD (and as you threw out 3RR, you obviously know better than to just keep redoing it anyway). You were bold and removed the tag, it was reverted, at which point you should stop to discuss, not just keep removing it without any real justification or seeming understanding of why the plot was too long. Just removing the quote from the top was not a valid fix and it left the opening awkward. Also, personal messages should go on a user talk page not the article talk page. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 19:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Then maybe you should unprotect your talk page. And you certainly had the option of going forward from where I was and helping to improve the article rather than reverting. As it is, you accumulated 4 reverts. But as I'm really a nice guy I'll let that go this time. Try to keep your head and keep track of your reverts next time though, okay? And maybe waiting a few minutes instead of rapid-fire reverting would help you avoid conflicts in the future. QaBobAllah (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- My talk page is protected from IP edits. And no, I didn't accumulate 4 reverts. You said fix it, so I did. If you had intended to do it yourself, next time actually say so. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- The 4 reverts are listed on my talk page. Partial reverts count, and they don't have to be the same revert each time. QaBobAllah (talk) 22:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- You are now on your sixth revert (Twice reverting my educated removal of tags which have IMO been resolved). QaBobAllah (talk) 23:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- No, I'm not, but whatever. If I am, so are you. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Tags
Since some folks have demanded an explanation on the tags, here ya go. Clean up is required because the article has a lot of formatting issues, regular and Film MoS violations, and badly formatted references. It is tagged for ref improve because it has all of 9 references, with huge amounts of unreferenced statements including nearly the entire production section, the entire release section, the soundtrack section, etc. These need sources or they need removing. Self-published because there is a blog or newsgroup posting among the "references" which very obviously is self-published and fails WP:RS. Until these issues are addressed, the tags should remain. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- In case you hadn't noticed, I fixed the reference formating and replaced the blog with the source article in The Telegraph. Did you bother to look? I left the refimprove tag. The talk page only detailed the length of the plot as needing cleanup. You were asked, about and that's all you said. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Um, no, you didn't fix the reference formatting. The reference formatting is still not up to standard and does not comply with various guidelines. The blog/newsgroup posting is still there. The plot was not the only clean up needed, the whole article needs it. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Be specific, which references? QaBobAllah (talk) 23:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- All need format fixing. #9 is the one that appears to be a blog/newsgroup or otherwise self-published posting and non-RS. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- You read Norwegian? Looks like a news site to me. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- OMG that was hard. Now which reference are not correctly formatted. I added text to the links, authors where avaailable, and article dates. I suppose tagging is easier for you than fixing them, but I'm prepared to do it if you tell me what you think is wrong with them. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant #7, the fxp.de site. And no, none of the references were formatted correctly, but that's okay, I already fixed them myself (again). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- You do know that the use of cite templates is optional, don't you? QaBobAllah (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- And #7 cites its own source and is not a blog post. It's a hell of a lot better than the one that was there. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- They are optional on lower class articles, but no reason not to go ahead and use them when they actually will format the references correctly at all times, instead of the wrong formats here. It also saves time later down the road, presuming folks do actually want this to be above a start class one day. Rather embarrassing that it isn't already. Using cite web is not really very optional for web references once you move up to higher quality articles, anyway, and using cite templates makes it far easier to ensure reference consistency. For the reference, it is a self-published personal website, not a reliable source. If it is quoting a source, confirm the source if valid, reliable, and use it instead, but this link as is fails WP:RS -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the guidelines actually say to stick with the referencing style in use in the article, not to change it without consensus. So I try to follow that. I don't really like the templates, it's easy enough to format references w/o them. And not having cite templates is not a valid reason for tagging. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's referring to using inline versus Harvard, etc, not the use of citation templates. Either way, there was no valid style in use. The references were not properly formatted manually either, and were not following any of the styles desired by Wikipedia guidelines. So introducing a a valid style through templates is perfectly acceptable. They are in use on far more articles than attempting to manually format references that then have to be fixed every time the guideline is changed. Also, as I already noted above, that is not the main reason the article is tagged for clean up. It still needs a lot of clean up, not just that. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the guidelines actually say to stick with the referencing style in use in the article, not to change it without consensus. So I try to follow that. I don't really like the templates, it's easy enough to format references w/o them. And not having cite templates is not a valid reason for tagging. QaBobAllah (talk) 23:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- They are optional on lower class articles, but no reason not to go ahead and use them when they actually will format the references correctly at all times, instead of the wrong formats here. It also saves time later down the road, presuming folks do actually want this to be above a start class one day. Rather embarrassing that it isn't already. Using cite web is not really very optional for web references once you move up to higher quality articles, anyway, and using cite templates makes it far easier to ensure reference consistency. For the reference, it is a self-published personal website, not a reliable source. If it is quoting a source, confirm the source if valid, reliable, and use it instead, but this link as is fails WP:RS -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Animating Snow White
As I recall, an actress was filmed doing all of Snow White's movements; that film was used in turn to achieve her life-like animation. I don't see that mentioned anywhere. Did I just miss it? PetersV TALK 07:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The technique is rotoscoping, and yes, it is mentioned. 76.99.186.217 (talk) 18:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Neeeed mooorrrrre coffffeeeee! :-) PetersV TALK 22:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
That's not entirely accurate. Marge Champion (the SW model) was indeed filmed so her movements and such could be studied, HOWEVER, she was NOT actually rotoscoped. The character of Snow White was drawn entirely by hand, not copied over live action footage. There are a few references which claim they were, but the vast amount of evidence and personal accounts rests on the side of the contrary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.205.57.121 (talk) 05:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Remove the Hitler thing?
The part about hitler ad artwork does't seem to fit in with the rest of the article, can we remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.116.80 (talk) 08:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
2009 Release Dates
This article explains that the Blu-Ray will come seven weeks earlier than the DVD, not on the same day as the DVD. 76.230.7.22 (talk) 23:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- That article talks about the standard DVD, whereas the one mentioned in the article is a 'Platinum Edition DVD'. Not done fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 07:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Gimmicky wording or not, the point is that we were wrong about the release date of the 2009 DVD. I think it's pretty obvious the "standard DVD" refers to the Platinum DVD. What reason do we have to assume there is more than one Snow White DVD coming this year? 98.100.201.178 (talk) 19:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Not done unsourced fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 08:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Gimmicky wording or not, the point is that we were wrong about the release date of the 2009 DVD. I think it's pretty obvious the "standard DVD" refers to the Platinum DVD. What reason do we have to assume there is more than one Snow White DVD coming this year? 98.100.201.178 (talk) 19:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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is enough! Helpers got notified whenever someone uses one! fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 08:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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Well, quite a few other websites seem to have put two and two together and assumed the Platinum DVD will come on a different day than the Blu-Ray: bluray.com, Digital Bits, Ultimate Disney (scroll down). Can you please at least change "It is due to be released again as a Platinum Edition DVD on October 6, 2009, making it the first Disney film to have two different Platinum Edition DVDs. On the same day, a high definition Blu-Ray version of the film will be released, launching the worldwide Disney BD-Live network." to "It is due to be released as a Blu-Ray Platinum Edition on October 6, 2009, launching the worldwide Disney BD-Live network." until further notice? 98.100.201.178 (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
This article is no longer semi-protected; please make any edits you wish. Of course, controversial edits should be discussed on the talk page etc... in brief, play nicely :-) Chzz ► 01:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)- What are you talking about? It's still semi-protected. 98.100.201.178 (talk) 12:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, my mistake. I'd requested that the protection be removed; when I saw there was no icon at the top of the article, I thought it was no longer semi-protected. But it is. Once again, sorry for the mistake. Chzz ► 13:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? It's still semi-protected. 98.100.201.178 (talk) 12:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Done fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 07:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
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Under the heading "Cast and Characters" It states that Virginia Davis starred in Alice in Wonderland. This is a mistake. She starred in the Alice Comedies.
--Qwiglee (talk) 15:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Done fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 08:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, please don't use templates in headings - it screws up the formatting pretty bad. fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 08:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Inaccuracies in Blu-Ray Section
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The article says something about a digital copy of the movie and to go to bluray.com for more info. However, bluray.com's Snow White article says nothing at all about a digital copy. It also says the DVD won't be available by itself on that day. Please change "Walt Disney Home Entertainment has confirmed that Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) will be released on DVD and Blu-Ray HD on October 6, 2009. The Blu-ray will include a Blu-ray version of the movie, a DVD copy of the film as well as a Digital File copy." to "Walt Disney Home Entertainment has confirmed that Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs will be released on Blu-Ray Disc on October 6, 2009. It will include a high definition version of the movie, a DVD copy of the film, and several bonus features not included on the 2001 DVD." I'm also not sure if it needs its own header and can probably just be merged with the "Release" section. 76.229.172.88 (talk) 14:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Blu-Ray Gift Sets
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Is it necessary to add information about the three gift sets that will be released this October? 76.229.172.88 (talk) 02:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe. Can you write the wording that you would like included? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if they're worth mentioning since the article for Cinderella says nothing about that film's 1995 and 2005 Gift Sets, but I think we can use this wording for Snow White: "The movie will also be available as a Book Packaging Set, a Seven Dwarfs Plush Pack, and a Limited Edition Gift Set. The Limted Edition Set is currently known to contain the movie, a book, pins, and drawings." 98.100.201.178 (talk) 19:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Not done for now: You sound unsure about this change, so I'll share a disinterested opinion. This sounds a little too much like an advertisement to me, as do the phrases "and several bonus features not included on the 2001 DVD" and "and many more special features" which end the preceding paragraphs. It might be better to use less enticing prose and avoid going into too many details about the contents. "The standard three-disk set will include both a Blu-ray and DVD copy of the film and three collector sets are also planned." covers the facts in a simple way. You're also more than welcome to request the edit with your original wording again, once you are sure that you want it. Regards. Celestra (talk) 23:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
French wiki
This article is featured on French Wikipedia. It is awesome there, with over 200 citations in French and English. Might be good to get a translator! Wrad (talk) 01:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Diamond Collection
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Snow White Blu-Ray press release Please change "Walt Disney Home Entertainment has confirmed that Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs will be released on Blu-Ray Disc on October 6, 2009. It will include a high definition version of the movie, a DVD copy of the film, and several bonus features not included on the 2001 DVD." to "Walt Disney Home Entertainment has confirmed that Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs will be released on Blu-Ray Disc on October 6, 2009. It will include a high definition version of the movie, a DVD copy of the film, and several bonus features not included on the 2001 DVD. This release will also mark the introduction of a "Diamond Collection" series of movies." Also note that I added a Blu-Ray link in the revised version. 76.199.172.12 (talk) 20:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Image
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I found a good free image on the Japanese page that can be added here, could somebody please consider adding it somewhere to the English page as well?
And it's been over six months since it was protected, shouldn't the protection be lifted now? 78.133.73.231 (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Not done: Hi. The {{editsemiprotected}}
is meant to be used when you have a specific request. This talk page is the right place, though, for having the disscussion of whether to include it. Regarding the unprotect, the current semiprotection is indefinite and so it won't just expire. You will need to go toWikipedia:Request for page protection to put in an unprotect request. Cheers, Celestra (talk) 20:29, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "DVD":
- From Mulan: Mulan DVD Commentary (DVD). Walt Disney Home Entertainment. 2004.
- From Lady and the Tramp: Eric Goldberg. Lady and the Tramp Platinum Edition DVD, Disc 2: "Behind the Scenes: Story Development".
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:05, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Initial box office
This should go without saying, but caution should be used in referencing Box Office Mojo for this and other films of this vintage. If you analyze the link from Box Office Mojo that was previously being used as a reference, you will actually see that the $66 million figure is cumulative for all releases prior to 1983, and is incorrectly listed at Box Office Mojo as the initial "Domestic Total Gross".
This is a case where using actual printed references becomes essential. All animation history texts state that Snow White earned about $8 million (I have not been able to find the exact figure; only that estimation) in its original theatrical release. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 13:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Snow White Returns
Shouldn't Snow White Returns be mentioned, somewhere in the article? -With all due respect, BrianGriffin-FG (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:57, 3 March 2010 (UTC).
- That depends ... what is Snow White Returns, and is there verifiable proof that this is a Disney project in active production? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 02:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- In the Diamond Edition standard and blue-ray DVD release discussed about this. While researching the film for the DVD, they ran across storyboards, sketch, and unfinished test footage for what the folks at Disney believe was a posible planed sequel called Snow White Returns. As seen here scroll down the features section under the buy it button, it has blurb mention it. I also see to remember this being discussed on a Disney documentary years ago where they showed the test footage. Sarujo (talk) 15:18, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's not any good anymore. Maybe this can help. Sarujo (talk) 15:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Film to air on TV after its seventy-three-year theatrical debut...
I just read that this film is going to have its world television premiere on ABC Family tonight at 8PM.
~~LDEJRuff~~ (see what I've contributed) 17:54, 6 March 2010 (EDT)
The Databox at the bottom of the page is wrong
Excuse me if my grammar is wrong (Because I'm not a native speaker. I have an only intermediate skills in English.) I think the databox that tells the "Award" of this film. 'Tells that this film is "Highest Grossing Film of All-Time" Preceded by The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. But in fact, it preceded by Mickey (1918 film). You can see reference of my passage at List of highest-grossing films, Mickey (1918 film)
I have my account of english wikipedia. But I'm casual user, so, I can't edit this page myself. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.122.104 (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Plot
The plot summary needs work. Snow White does not start "a new life" with the Dwarfs as she is with them (alive) for only a day at most. Second, the entire sequence where the Dwarfs entertain her with a song and dance and then she returns the favor by singing to them is left out. From this scene and others, it is obvious Snow White and the dwarfs are now friends and that instead of her merely cooking and cleaning for them, she is a friend and companion. Also, the Dwarfs don't let her stay merely because she can cook, expect for Grumpy, they all really wanted her to stay from the start, the fact she can cook was merely the final tipping point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.205.57.121 (talk) 05:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Tomato Tomoto
Umm...do you know what similarties "Gone With the Wind," "Casablanca," "The Sound of Music," and "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves," have in common aside of them all being classic movies? They don't have a Rotton Tomato or Metacritic score recorded in them! I mean am I missing something here? I mean is it because there old movies because both "Citizen Kane," and "The Wizard of Oz," have there scores recorded and there about as old as a movie can get...So why doesn't "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves," have a score in them? I think that people who read this article would be very interested about how contemporary critics rated this movie. I don't know I'm just saying it's an idea.-James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.164.245 (talk) 21:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Link needs fixing
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In the "Crew" paragraph of the "Cast and Crew" section, see the line headed "Animators:" (The last line in the paragraph).
The hyperlink "Cy Young" links to the article about the baseball player. It should link to "Cy Young(animator)".
Correct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cy_Young_(animator)
Would it be worth noteing
That the 7 dwarfs were feat. as an easter egg in Fallout Newvegas dlc Old World Blues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poohman0 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- Not in this article. Powers T 12:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Succession of Snow White movie.
Did the 1937 film fail or succeeded? What it a hit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.204.103 (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
- Have you perhaps read Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)#Critical reception? Powers T 14:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Disney Fact:Disney won one normal sized Oscar and seven smaller Oscars for the production of Snow White And the Seven Dwarfs
Candidate for anniversary collaboration
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Is it "Mirror, mirror" or "Magic mirror"?
This article quotes the famous query as "Magic mirror on the wall, who is the fairest one of all?" However, I've heard it quoted (more commonly, in fact) as "Mirror, mirror on the wall..."
Which is correct? (Somewhat surprisingly, being such a famous quote [or misquote] from a famous film, this topic isn't mentioned in the article. I haven't seen the movie myself, so I don't know the answer.)
(Also, while I'm at it....I've heard the last three words quoted, in about equal amounts, as "one of all" and "of them all". Again, which is correct?) Captain Quirk (talk) 03:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
- "Mirror, Mirror" is a Star Trek episode. "Magic mirror" is the correct quotation from this film. As for the latter question, q:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) says it's "one of all", but I don't know how to prove it. =) Powers T 22:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Unprotecting
I've unprotected this article, which was on "semi". It was protected way back in 2008, by a user that stopped editing Wikipedia in 2010. He cites another user that had a redlink user page. Lets see if we can trust the masses again, and rely on some of the great automated vandalism prevention methods developed since then. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:51, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- Very good. However, this page is a target of the banned user Bambifan101 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). See also WP:Long-term abuse/Bambifan101. It was previously protected because of BF101. Should we implement Recent changes if necessary? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- Bambifan is back on the scene as well, it seems: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bambifan101, so keep your eyes peeled. Betty Logan (talk) 03:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Bleck. That is long term. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
- Or... maybe that recent SPI report was inconclusive. Either way, be on the lookout for Bambifan101. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:04, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Gremlins
Shouldn't Gremlins be mentioned in the other media section seeing as how they were watching this movie? EgyptKEW9 15:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)EgyptKEW9EgyptKEW9 15:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EgyptKEW9 (talk • contribs)
- While that's fun trivia, it's nothing more than trivia. -- Zanimum (talk) 23:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Trivia is still mentioned in articles EgyptKEW9 20:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)EgyptKEW9EgyptKEW9 20:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
'Trivia', like beauty, is ALWAYS in the eye of the beholder. Wiki-policy is 'all over the map', as usual, depending on who 'oversees' which entries -- i have seen countless references to 'cameos' of film characters/films 'appearing' in other entries on films/TV, and every article that has an (in) 'Other Media' section is 'trivia' in every sense of the word, unless there is some profound effect of the topic at hand, which is very hard to argue, BUT is there BECAUSE it can be 'cited', while first-hand source material can not, against all common sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.81.245.171 (talk) 09:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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Okay, so to start, there's lots of new {{fact}} tags, in addition to earlier ones and one asking for clarification. All of these existed as of when you nominated the article, which qualifies as a "quickfail". That said, I'm wanting to see this article through to GA status. Please start to clean things up. -- Zanimum (talk) 23:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your guidance on this. I'm not a major contributor to the article but felt, like you, that this should be GA or better and wanted to do what was needed to get it there. Thanks for taking the time to review it. I'll be working on these changes over the coming week (a bit slower than usual given the holidays). Lemurbaby (talk) 12:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Lead
- Walt Disney Animated Classics series has a ref on it. Down in Home media, you only discuss the WD Masterpiece Collection. Everything in the lead should be in the article, and there shouldn't be refs in the lead. Really, the title is rather dubious to have in the lead at all, just a modern marketing title.
- I moved the ref and that content into the body of the article. Lemurbaby (talk) 12:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- The second paragraph is a little too focused on modern honours for the film. Why aren't either the honourary Oscar or “most successful sound film of all time” mentioned? I personally feel that those are more important, the AFI rankings could be summarized into.
- I've tried to make this a bit more balanced between contemporary and modern achievements, but leads are always difficult to pin down. Betty Logan (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Plot
- Solid, but should there not be a citation of the film itself? Or of Grant's Encyclopedia? Plots need citations.
- Sorry, realizing this article hasn't cited Grant at all, it was the other Disney article I reviewed. I've added a citation, as indeed most if not all details are repeated in that publication (even though it likely wasn't actually the source for any of the contributors.) -- Zanimum (talk) 22:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- Plots for fiction works do not need to be sourced, since the work itself serves as the source. See WP:FILMPLOT. Betty Logan (talk) 02:38, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Design
- First para needs cleanup.
- Edited. Lemurbaby (talk) 12:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- That works. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Cinematic influences
- Break the 106 word sentence up. Please.
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- Merci. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Rereleases
- What's 4K resolution? 4 megapixels? 4000 pixels high? There's an extremely direct solution to this.
- Hint, it involves square brackets. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't write this part, so I'm actually not certain what that editor was intending. If you think you know, would you add the brackets? Thanks in advance. :) Lemurbaby (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
- Top money makers of all time, as of when? How much money, adjusted?
- Don't know how much of this has been addressed, but it's now clear in the article it became the highest grossing sound film. I don't think there is much point giving an adjusted amount because this keeps changing as ticket prices go up. We would have to change it every few months, whereas the rank has been the same since The Exorcist reissue overtook it in 2000. I've added a link in to our own adjusted chart on Wikipedia, so readers can click on that and get the figure. Betty Logan (talk) 03:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Critical reception
- You need to discuss what the heck these AFI lists are. I know, I loved these lists, but they'd be lost on someone who didn't see the programs at the time.
- There really should be some brief mention of AFI's methodology, the fact it was an industry vote, was it not?
- To address both these points, I've added a short paragraph explaining the significance and methodology of the AFI. Lemurbaby (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
References
- Refs 6 and 7 are the same. Merge, please! (This is only one edition of the book, the other being devoted Aladdin.)
- I'm going to give the refs an overhaul here in the next few days. Lemurbaby (talk) 12:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the above changes, a very good start! -- Zanimum (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hope to get this done in the next few days... Fingers crossed, as there's a bit of polishing to do. Thanks for your comments and patience! Lemurbaby (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Eagerly awaiting the final few fixes, so that this can be promoted... hopefully you'll get a chance early in January, if nothing else! -- Zanimum (talk) 20:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delays - I'm traveling the next few days and will be home over the weekend to work on this and hopefully finish up. Lemurbaby (talk) 20:25, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 14:53, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Hooray, I think between the four of us (Lemurbaby, Betty Logan, Sjones23, and myself) we've got this article on solid ground now. I'm adding mention of some of the 1994 and 2012 publications strictly about the movie, and promoting. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Edit request
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There is no mention of Walt Disney wanting to make a possible sequel to the film, entitled Snow White Returns that he abandoned or about the archived storyboards found in the "Disney Vault" when the Diamond Edition was released. Sources: The Diamond Edition release of Snow White, both Blu-ray and DVD releases. & Yahoo! it says: Two deleted scenes from the film that may have been repurposed for a sequel that never materialized can be seen in "Snow White Returns" or on their own.
- If you have specific text you would like added to the article, please place it here. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:29, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Signature Collection
Disney released Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs on Digital HD today, and they will release it on Blu-ray on February 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLennyGriffinFan1994 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
First feature-length animated film?
The question of what the first feature-length animated film was has never been resolved. The Fleischers apparently did a long silent film on Einstein's theory of relativity, but this wouldn't count, as it (presumably) wasn't a "narrative" film. Does anyone know? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 13:11, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- There were many animated features before Snow White. (See the wiki article on History of Animation.) However, SW is the first animated feature with sound, in color, and with an extensive audience. --Janke | Talk 13:57, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
For a chronological list, see List of animated feature films before 1940. According to the articles about the films and their completion and/or release, the order is:
- El Apóstol (1917). 1st feature-length animated film.
- Sin dejar rastros (1918). 2nd.
- The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926). 3rd.
- Peludópolis (1931). 4th.
- The New Gulliver (1935). 5th.
- The Adventures of Pinocchio (1936). 6th.
- The Tale of the Fox (April, 1937).7th.
- Academy Award Review of Walt Disney Cartoons (May, 1937). 8th.
- The Seven Ravens (December 2, 1937). 9th.
- Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (December 21, 1931). 10th.
- Gulliver's Travels (1939). 11th.
Not exactly "many" in number. Most of these films were not cel-animated, unlike Snow White. Dimadick (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2016
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[Paste of the entire article snipped. —User:Trivialist]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Trivialist (talk) 22:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
The magic mirror and its role
One must wonder about the magic mirror its powers its role. Where did queen Grimhilde get it from, and if someone gave it to her - who and with what intent? It has with reason been said that it just is not true that the sweet teen Snow white should be more fair than the queen. Also: can one at all speak of Anyone Objectively the most fair of all? Does the mirror pursue some agenda of its own - or of someone else? Of Greatest interest in the matter is that Grimhilde seems to have all but abdicated her role as regent. Then who does rule the kingdom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.130.31.203 (talk) 09:09, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
WW
When it says it Adjusted for inflation, it is one of the top ten performers at the North American box office should it also be added Highest-grossing films adjusted for inflation worldwide and the top aminted film of all time.82.38.157.176 (talk) 10:52, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2017
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Cast: Snow White was essentially a composite of four women. Adriana Caselotti was the voice of Snow White. Marge Champion did the dance modeling for Snow White. Regarding her looks, Snow White was modeled after two actresses, Janet Gaynor and Hedy Lamarr. Linda Strassberger (talk) 16:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:22, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Appearance in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
Admittedly … it's a "blink and you'll miss it " or "if you don't watch it in widescreen" moment … but , when Eddie Valiant first arrives in Toontown , in the lower right hand corner of the screen , The Witch / Evil Queen is seen taking an apple from a fruit bin and Snow White hurries her into the grocery store. The Seven Dwarfs are also seen coming out of the subway entrance.75.104.163.77 (talk) 19:22, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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Box office in infobox
I have reverted this edit by Trekphiler where he replaced the lifetime box-office with the original theatrical gross. I think it is important not to make presumptions about what editors expect to find. If you look at most box-office trackers such as Box Office Mojo, The Numbers and Boxoffice.com in all cases the lifetime gross is presented as the primary figure (although all three tracker lack complete overseas data). In this spirit if you look at other film articles—such as Star Wars, James Bond and other Dsiney releases—you will see the lifetime total is the figure presented in the infobox, and I personally think it is the correct approach.
The original theatrical box-office should go in the XXXX in film articles where the articles relates to a particular release window. The 1937 in film article doesn't log box-office, but you can see a more recent example of this at Titanic (1997 film) which has the lifetime box-office in the infobox and the original gross at 1997 in film. Betty Logan (talk) 03:17, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- Nice theory, except all too many of the "year in film" pages also use the lifetime figure... I happen to think putting the lifetime amount in the infobox is a stupid practise, but I won't argue it here, because the problem isn't limited to this page. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 04:29, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- The practise is standard, and not just limited to Wikipedia. Films like Snow White and Gone with the Wind have had long shelf lives and the bulk of their revenues came after the first release, so I don't see how it is useful to the reader to ignore the bulk of their income. Betty Logan (talk) 06:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
First feature length cel animation
Does Lotte Reiniger's 65-minute 1926 animation "The Adventures of Prince Achmed" predate the claim that Snow White "is the first full-length cel animated feature film"? --Iantresman (talk) 15:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- No, Prince Achmed was made by stop-motion shooting of paper silhouettes. --Janke | Talk 16:41, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently not. Reiniger used an entirely different technique: "manipulated cutouts made from cardboard and thin sheets of lead under a camera." Dimadick (talk) 16:45, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable. --Iantresman (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2018
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In this sentence in the third paragraph of Plot, "Snow White awakes to find the dwarfs at her bedside and introduces herself, and all of the dwarfs eventually welcome her into their home after they she offers to clean and cook for them. Snow White keeps house for the dwarfs while they mine for jewels during the day, and at night they all sing, play music and dance.", delete they in bold because it doesn't make sense why it's there. 2601:183:101:58D0:11D1:CFC6:1538:3819 (talk) 10:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Done - thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 11:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
smuggled into the Soviet Union
I read somewhere that the movie was smuggled into the Soviet Union right at the end of WWII. If you see a Soviet made version of "The Snow Maiden" the drawings (especially the witch) look very similar to those in Snow White. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.39 (talk) 07:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Edit Request - Sergei Eisenstein - "Greatest Film Ever Made"
The current article states, under Release: Reception, that "Eisenstein went so far as to call it the greatest film ever made.[38]" The New York Times article doesn't say this at all:
"In the Soviet Union, Sergei Eisenstein, who was directing Alexander Nevsky when he saw Snow White, wrote: Although as yet there are all too few examples of the true cinematography of sound-and-sight consonance (only a few scenes, for instance in Disney's wonderful 'Snow White' or individual scenes from 'Alexander Nevsky,' such as the 'Attack of the Knights'), advanced cinema directors are engrossed in the problem of spectacle synthesis, experimenting in this field and accumulating a certain amount of experience."
He praises the film but does not call it the "greatest film ever made". This line should be removed from the article or a different source cited if he did indeed say that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.33.183 (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2020
I recommend against having two occurrences of the same "Heigh Ho" image in the article. Please remove one of them. 2601:545:8201:6290:3C97:67B9:B9EF:83EA (talk) 07:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Not done One is a still from the scene being discussed, the other a song clip. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- The still is perhaps unnecessary, provided that the movie really is PD... --Janke | Talk 15:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- They are in two different sections of the article, one illustrating the animation, the other the music. Both are public domain and add value to the sections they are in. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- But they're the same image! It's totally redundant! Maybe they weren't always the same image, but they are now! 2601:545:8201:6290:4890:F99B:486B:53AA (talk) 19:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- One is an image still, the other is a music clip. Not the same thing. They are separated too far in the article that removing the still will make that section that talks about it less informative to a reader who won't see the music clip image until later. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- But they're the same image! It's totally redundant! Maybe they weren't always the same image, but they are now! 2601:545:8201:6290:4890:F99B:486B:53AA (talk) 19:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- They are in two different sections of the article, one illustrating the animation, the other the music. Both are public domain and add value to the sections they are in. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- The still is perhaps unnecessary, provided that the movie really is PD... --Janke | Talk 15:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2020
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Principal photography for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is uncertain. 69.165.147.247 (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 22:11, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
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I don't know whether the principal photography began or not. 69.165.153.175 (talk) 12:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jack Frost (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2020
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According to The Hollywood Reporter, filming for the live-action remake of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs has been delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[1] Can you edit the Live-action feature film adaptations section please? 216.154.40.40 (talk) 00:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Kit, Borys; Couch, Aaron. "Disney Suspends Film Production Amid Coronavirus Concerns". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved March 13, 2020.
- Request declined. There is no mention of Snow White in the article you refer to. --Janke | Talk 08:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2020
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In the section "Live-action feature film adaptations", there are words that say "signed on as to director", when it was supposed to say "signed on as director", or "signed on to direct the film". 216.154.40.40 (talk) 15:42, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Principal photography for the live-action adaptation of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was supposed to begin in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada in March 2020, but this has not occurred due to the COVID-19 pandemic. 216.154.40.40 (talk) 13:58, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:09, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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There is a link to Tripp Vinson. 216.154.40.40 (talk) 15:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
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There are the words Disney XD when they're not supposed to be italic. 45.72.254.130 (talk) 12:16, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
The claim about Snow White having been designed by Charles Thorson and based on an Icelandic waitress is dubious. I recommend removing it
The following claim in the article is dubious: "Cartoonist and character designer Charles Thorson joined Disney in 1935. Charles designed Snow White based on an Icelandic waitress he met in the 1920s named Kristin Solvadottir while eating at a diner in his hometown of Winnipeg, Manitoba".
First of all, Charles Thorson is not credited in the opening titles of the film.
The only evidence for this claim are oral, coming from Charles Thorson's son (Dr. Steven Thorson) as well as the daughter of the Icelandic waitress in question, Kristín Sölvadóttir. It is well known from all the scholarly literature on the film that Grim Natwick and Ham Luske were the primary designers and animators of Snow White. They are also credited in the opening titles of the film as animators. See e.g. -Kaufman, J. B. (2012). Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: The Art and Creation of Walt Disney's Classic Animated Film. Weldon Owen -Barrier, Michael (1999). Hollywood Cartoons: American Animation in Its Golden Age. New York: Oxford University Press. -Maltin, Leonard. (1980). Of Mice and Magic: A History of Animated Cartoons. New York: McGraw-Hill Book Company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjörvi Schiöth (talk • contribs) 06:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Removed the paragraph. Thorson is not named in any other literature than blogs etc. from Manitoba, and not in any Disney literature. May well be hearsay. --Janke | Talk 17:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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There are the words "adaptation for" when they were supposed to be "adaptation of". 45.72.254.130 (talk) 12:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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There is the word "coronavirus" when it was supposed to say "COVID-19". 45.72.227.120 (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Really, either if fine, but it takes less effort to change than discuss why not to change. --A D Monroe III(talk) 00:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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Can you add an Update section template to the section with live-action feature film adaptations, pretty please? 69.165.147.219 (talk) 15:10, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not done. Instead of just drive-by tagging, could you tell me specifically what to update? ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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Please update the the section with live-action feature film adaptations. 75.119.249.145 (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please specify what exactly you want added along with sources, please. RudolfRed (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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In the section of the now cancelled Rose Red, please change "will" to "was to" and "is" to "was". 216.154.8.89 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Done, and thank you very much for the update! P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 00:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
International releases
- December 21, 1937 (Los Angeles); January 1, 1938 (Washington, D.C.); January 13, 1938 (Miami and New York); January 31, 1938 (Baltimore); February 4, 1938 (original); February 22, 1944 (re-release); February 13, 1952 (re-release); February 7, 1958 (re-release); June 11, 1967 (re-release); December 20, 1975 (re-release); July 15, 1983 (re-release); July 15, 1987 (re-release; New York); July 17, 1987 (re-release); July 2, 1993 (re-release); September 29, 2012 (New York Film Festival)
- January 22, 1938 (Buenos Aires); May 23, 1938
- February 24, 1938 (London); March 12, 1938 (original); April 3, 1944 (re-release); April 12, 1954 (re-release); December 20, 1964 (re-release); December 24, 1972 (re-release); December 21, 1980 (re-release); July 14, 1987 (re-release; limited); December 16, 1987 (re-release); February 21, 1992 (re-release); July 22, 1994 (re-release)
- March 26, 1938 (original); May 20, 1938 (Brussels)
- April 5, 1938
- May 1, 1938 (Manila); September 24, 1949 (Davao)
- May 6, 1938 (original); December 30, 1944 (re-release; Paris); August 31, 1951 (re-release); December 12, 1962 (re-release); December 5, 1973 (re-release); November 30, 1983 (re-release); February 12, 1992 (re-release); April 30, 2014 (re-release); October 3, 2020 (re-release; limited; Paris)
- June 2, 1938 (Nanking)
- June 28, 1938 (Montevideo)
- July 8, 1938 (original); April 7, 1944 (re-release); December 18, 1953 (re-release); December 17, 1965 (re-release); December 11, 1981 (re-release); December 18, 1987 (re-release); April 17, 1992 (re-release)
- July 21, 1938
- July 31, 1938
- August 24, 1938 (Venice Film Festival); December 23, 1938 (original); January 1, 1950 (re-release); December 13, 1962 (re-release); December 20, 1972 (re-release); December 19, 1980 (re-release); July 17, 1987 (re-release; limited); December 10, 1987 (re-release); March 27, 1992 (re-release)
- September 5, 1938 (Rio de Janeiro); October 10, 1938 (São Paulo); July 24, 1944 (re-release); August 27, 1952 (re-release); December 27, 1965 (re-release; Rio de Janeiro); July 4, 1966 (re-release; São Paulo); December 24, 1977 (re-release); June 25, 1987 (re-release); December 11, 1992 (re-release)
- September 12, 1938 (original); May 1, 2002 (Kristiansand International Children's Film Festival)
- September 16, 1938 (original); December 25, 1970 (re-release)
- September 27, 1938 (original); December 26, 1944 (re-release); December 12, 1949 (re-release); December 15, 1962 (re-release); December 22, 1973 (re-release); December 17, 1982 (re-release); March 27, 1992 (re-release)
- September 29, 1938 (original); December 26, 1952 (re-release); December 26, 1962 (re-release); June 23, 1994 (re-release; Danish dubbed version)
- October 1, 1938 (original); August 21, 1953 (re-release); August 9, 1976 (Melbourne International Film Festival); December 15, 1983 (re-release); December 26, 1988 (re-release); April 9, 1992 (re-release)
- October 1, 1938 (original); January 18, 1965 (Zagreb)
- October 1, 1938
- October 16, 1938 (original); December 21, 1962 (re-release); December 21, 1973 (re-release); December 17, 1982 (re-release); July 17, 1987 (re-release); February 21, 1992 (re-release)
- October 31, 1938 (Algiers)
- November 10, 1938
- November 11, 1938 (Dutch version); March 17, 1939 (English version); December 20, 1984 (re-release); April 10, 1992 (re-release); November 1, 2017 (Leiden International Film Festival)
- November 23, 1938
- December 12, 1938 (original); April 10, 1992 (re-release)
- December 17, 1938 (German speaking region)
- December 21, 1938 (original); May 25, 2001 (re-release)
- December 21, 1938
- December 22, 1938 (original); September 13, 1962 (re-release)
- December 29, 1938
- January 2, 1939 (Cairo)
- September 18, 1939
- January 16, 1941
- June 15, 1941
- October 6, 1941 (Barcelona and Madrid); November 19, 1951 (re-release); December 21, 1964 (re-release); December 24, 1975 (re-release); December 2, 1983 (re-release); April 10, 1992 (re-release)
- August 13, 1945
- September 8, 1945
- May 4, 1948
- June 25, 1948
- February 24, 1950 (original); December 12, 1957 (re-release); November 18, 1966 (re-release); December 19, 1975 (re-release); November 26, 1983 (re-release)
- February 24, 1950 (original); April 2, 1992 (re-release)
- September 26, 1950 (original); December 17, 1957 (re-release); March 9, 1968 (re-release); July 19, 1980 (re-release); July 20, 1985 (re-release); July 21, 1990 (re-release); March 19, 1994 (re-release)
- February 14, 1953
- November 17, 1954
- June 6, 1955 (Moscow); June 19, 1955 (TV premiere)
- January 10, 1956 (Kuala Lumpur); October 7, 1972 (re-release)
- January 31, 1960
- July 26, 1960
- January 1, 1964
- February 10, 1965
- July 30, 1966
- January 14, 1967
- June 11, 1984
- September 20, 1997 (Port of Spain)
Incredible work! — ChannelSpider (talk) 15:01, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
References to use
- Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.
- Wright, Terri Martin (1997). "Romancing the Tale: Walt Disney's Adaptation of the Grimm's Snow White". Journal of Popular Film and Television. 25 (3).
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Links: [www.filmreference.com/Films-Se-Sno/Snow-White-and-the-Seven-Dwarfs.html Film Reference], UC Berkeley Library, Film Literature Index
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Snow White also made an appearance in the 2018 computer-animated film Ralph Breaks the Internet. 209.221.91.106 (talk) 16:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
Lack of information about the Dwarfs
Could somebody add some info about Doc, Sleepy, Sneezy, etc. They don't have their own pages, and it will be very useful if some information could be added somewhere. Lallint⟫⟫⟫Talk 22:21, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Unblock the page.
Could someone unblock the page, please? 151.38.46.233 (talk) 10:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Grammar error
At the beginning of the plot section, it says “Worrying the young girl will be more beautiful than her…” instead of “more beautiful than she”. 72.208.43.209 (talk) 03:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Good find, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
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I have four suggested changes to the plot: Worrying the young girl will be more beautiful than she to Worrying that the young girl will be more beautiful than she, reveals the Queen wants her dead to reveals that the Queen wants her dead, Snow White assumes the cottage is the untidy home of seven orphaned children to Snow White assumes that the cottage is the untidy home of seven orphaned children, he learns the curse can be broken by "love's first kiss," but is certain Snow White will be buried alive before this can happen to he learns that the curse can be broken by "love's first kiss," but is certain that Snow White will be buried alive before this can happen, and Claiming the apple is a magical, wish-granting one, the Queen fools Snow White into biting into it to Claiming that the apple is a magical, wish-granting one, the Queen fools Snow White into biting into it , 68.12.168.117 (talk) 01:48, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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Snow White and the seven dwarfs
The woman who played Snow White has sadly died. 2600:6C5E:1D00:1AD6:B14C:5EAB:EC9F:674F (talk) 20:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
"Broadway" musical
Suggested edit: The musical run was in Radio City Music Hall, not in a Broadway theater, so it does not qualify as a Broadway musical. Zarigueye (talk) 13:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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In the chapter 3.1 the name of an animator is written wrong, change Ferdinand Hovarth to Ferdinand Horvarth. 2001:B07:645A:2A20:10E1:EA8A:A70D:6B45 (talk) 21:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Partly done: The spelling is incorrect, but according to California Digital Library so is your correction. I have corrected the article in line with the OAC. If the OAC is incorrect then please provide a source with correct spelling. Betty Logan (talk) 19:10, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Ciao editors! -The (3)Production - (3.3) Music and records paragraph might be amended to include an External Audio Box link to the historical soundtrack recording of Adriana Caselotti singing the song "Whistle While You Work" (as mentioned in the paragraph) from the 1937 film as archived at the University of California- Santa Barbara's Discography of American Historical Recordings page shown in the reference citation below. Also note that additional songs from the original film are also available at this archive site including: "With a Smile and a Song (song)"," "Someday My Prince Will Come" and the duet with Harry Stockwell - "I'm Wishing / One Song". [1] Thanks for your consideration and enjoy the music! 160.72.81.86 (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)GCL
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You may hear "Whistle While You Work" performed by Adriana Caselotti in 1937 Here on ucsb.edu |
[2] 160.72.81.86 (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- ^ University of California - Santa Barbara: Discography of American Historical Recordings -- Harry Stockwell performs on uscb.edu
- ^ University of California - Santa Barbara: Discography of American Historical Recordings - Adriana Caselotti performing songs from the film Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) on ucsb.edu
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 3mi1y (talk) 07:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- My guess would be that based upon the description provided, it appears that the request is to change the paragraph labeled 3)Production - 3.3 Music and records by including as its first line the following text based upon the references provided with the text: (i.e. include the following text at the very start of the Music and records paragraph):
external media|align=center|width=270px|audio1=You may hear "Whistle While You Work" performed by Adriana Caselotti in 1937
Here on ucsb.edu [1]
- In order to include the External Audio Link Box in the article, it is necessary to enclose the text described above within the template brackets {{ }} This would result in the inclusion of the External Audio Box link. which appears to be the objective of this request. I hope this is of some help. 160.72.80.178 (talk) 22:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)NHPL
- Not done: There is no indication that this is appropriate for the section, there aren't other articles that include a song from a historic musical film. Aaron Liu (talk) 11:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Remaster info
It seems information about the remastered version(s) are missing, which would be nice to have for a classic such as this. E.g. see comparison videos on YouTube etc. Bjornte (talk) 20:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to add a major edit with substantial information and meaningful substance for the Cultural Impact and Legacy section of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I am currently enrolled in the MLIS degree at the University of Missouri. For my Reference class, we have been assigned a Wikipedia article edit. If at all possible, I would appreciate it if I could help contribute to this page. I have references and sources from the History Channel, Library of Congress, Technicolor Creative Studios, and The Economic Times. Thank you!
Animation Legacy In 1937, Walt Disney Animation Studios released its first fully animated feature film, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, pioneering a new form of family entertainment. Nearly a century later, we continue to honor our heritage through animated films that combine beautiful artistry, masterful storytelling and groundbreaking technology (Disney Animation).
Like most celebrated “firsts,” it wasn’t really the first animated feature. But it’s fair to say that no earlier feature had showcased the full range of animation technique in the way that “Snow White” did, nor so combined it with rich color, an infectious musical score, and an absorbing, carefully developed story (Library of Congress).
Walt Disney’s decision to make Snow White flew in the face of the popular wisdom at the time, (History Channel).
Walt boldly jumped into the center of the arena, crafting an animated feature that could compete with the major studios’ live-action features on their own terms. The sheer audacity of this concept in 1937 is impressive enough, but Walt didn’t stop with the concept. So fully did “Snow White” realize its goals that it scored a spectacular worldwide success at the box office, forcing the rest of the film industry to pay attention, and forever changing the course of the Disney studio (Library of Congress).
It is considered the legend and mother of animated films. It laid the foundation for animated films later. Still, animated films follow the same concept introduced by ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,’ (The Economic Times).
Another development emerged, one that was not widely recognized in the 1930s and is still little understood today: personality animation. Almost from the beginning of his career, Walt had urged his artists to go beyond the simple mechanics of animation and create characters who moved, gestured and walked in ways that expressed their personalities. This was an extraordinarily difficult art, and the Disney artists strove to master it. Their efforts culminated in “Snow White”, which built on the foundation of their earlier work and became the new milestone in this demanding craft (Library of Congress).
The art of character animation reaches its gold standard in “Snow White”, establishing a benchmark that has remained unchallenged since 1937—seldom equaled, never surpassed (Library of Congress).
From the review in Daily Variety, Dec. 22, 1937: “Walt Disney’s animation of Grimm’s fable, ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs,’ sets a milestone in the art of picture making. It is completely a thing of beauty and charm. … ‘Snow White’ is the genius of craftsmanship which can make an endless series of line drawings and color washes so eloquent in human expression and trouble and antic joy, so potent in evoking audience emotion, laughter, excitement, suspense, tears. Yes, indeed — tears!” (Technicolor Creative Studios).
Entertainment Industry Impact The movie’s innovative use of story, color, animation, sound, direction and background, among other elements, later inspired directors like Federico Fellini and Orson Welles. In fact, Welles’ Citizen Kane features an opening shot of a castle at night with one lighted window that is strikingly similar to the first shot of the Wicked Queen’s castle in Snow White, (History Channel).
A masterful innovator, Disney revolutionized the entertainment industry in unprecedented and often imitated ways, creating alternate realities and a global entertainment empire that brought stories to life across media and experiential platforms, (Norman Rockwell Museum).
Disney won an honorary Academy Award for his pioneering achievement, while the music for the film, featuring Snow White’s famous ballad, “Some Day My Prince Will Come” and other songs by Frank Churchill, Larry Morey, Paul J. Smith and Leigh Harline, was also nominated for an Oscar, (History Channel).
In particular, “Some Day My Prince Will Come” transcended what was seen as the traditional domain of “cartoon” music and became an enduring standard of the classic American songbook (Library of Congress).
References
Disney Enterprises, Inc. (n.d.). Feature films. Walt Disney Animation Studios. https://disneyanimation.com/films/#:~:text=100%20Years%20of%20Storytelling,new%20form%20of%20family%20entertainment.
Disney’s ‘snow white and the seven dwarfs’: first full-length animated film got released on this day in history. (2022, December 22). The Economic Times .
Editors, History. com (Ed.). (4AD). Disney releases “Snow White and the Seven dwarfs.” History.com. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/disney-releases-snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs.
Kaufman , J. B. (n.d.). Snow White and the Seven dwarfs - library of Congress. The Library of Congress (.gov). https://www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-film-preservation-board/documents/snow_white_dwarfs.pdf
Norman Rockwell Museum. (n.d.). Snow White and the Seven dwarfs: The creation of a Classic. Norman Rockwell Museum (.org). https://www.nrm.org/snowwhite/exhibition.html
Technicolor Creative Studios. (2022, December 6). Snow White becomes highest-grossing animated film of all time during this era. Technicolor Creative. https://www.technicolorcreative.com/about/history/technicolor-snow-white/ Rjaycox (talk) 19:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Addition to Cultural Impact and Legacy
I would like to propose an addition of meaningful content within the Cultural Impact and Legacy section of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. One section could be titled "Animation Legacy" which highlights the influence that concepts such as personality animation had on future films. In addition the next section could be titled "Entertainment Industry Impact," which would briefly detail how Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) inspired the entertainment empire in creating richer stories.
Thank you! Rjaycox (talk) 22:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 5 February 2024
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The result of the move request was: Widthdrawn. It's snowing pretty badly here. (closed by non-admin page mover) InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) → Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs – Since the fairy tale is titled "Snow White" and not "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", the original Disney film can be regarded as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the expanded term. Not only because it receives the most pageviews, but also due to its cultural significance and impact. Per WP:SMALLDETAILS, readers who deliberate type "and the Seven Dwarfs" are most likely looking for the film, so it is adequately, WP:NATURALly, and WP:CONCISEly disambiguated from other topics. InfiniteNexus (talk) 20:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" - clearly refers to the fairy tale first and foremost, whether the article is titled there or not. Per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. The status quo seems fine here. — Amakuru (talk) 21:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. I fundamentally disagree with the OP's assumption that
readers who deliberate type "and the Seven Dwarfs" are most likely looking for the film
. Trying to make this assumption by looking at the page views stats alone does not account for readers getting here directly from links from Google or other search engines or other web sites. The seven dwarfs have been closely connected to the fairy tale, thus this does not qualify under WP:SMALLDETAILS. When I currently do a Google search of snow white and the seven dwarfs, yes the first few results are about the 1937 film, but there is not overwhelming results about it, as I start to get links about the general Snow White fairy tale, plus those about the upcoming Snow White (2025 film). Zzyzx11 (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC) - Strong oppose per above. 162 etc. (talk) 22:00, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. The original is a folk tale, so while the Grimms and Wikipedia call it just "Snow White," the title seems like it would be somewhat flexible in reality, as the tale has changed and been retold throughout its history. Besides the other points here, which I think are sound, I think the article needs the "film" disambiguation because "and the seven dwarfs" doesn't by itself distinguish it as clearly as it needs to, imo.--MattMauler (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. It's the common name of the fairy tale. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Per others, seems to be getting WP:SNOWy. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, the fairy tale tells the story (Snow, Right?). Randy Kryn (talk) 04:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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Just a simple proposal to add a link (and a reference citation for all of the songs mentioned in the text) to the song With A Smile and a Song (song) within the list of songs mentioned in the opening sentence of the Music and records section as shown here:
- The songs in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs were composed by Frank Churchill and Larry Morey. Paul J. Smith and Leigh Harline composed the incidental music score. Well-known songs from the film include "Heigh-Ho", "Someday My Prince Will Come", and "Whistle While You Work".[1]
Thanks for the consideration. Caiao160.72.80.178 (talk) 22:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)NHPL 160.72.80.178 (talk) 22:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
References
- Not done. We don't cite IMDB. It is user-generated content and therefore not considered a reliable source. See WP:IMDB. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- O.K. Thanks for the insight about not using IMBD as a reference. Several other reliable published references are also possible candidates to support using this link to the song With A Smile and a Song (song) and to support the unreferenced text in the article. See the references as shown here:[1][2] Thanks again for your consideration. Ciao and Happy Editing! 160.72.80.178 (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)NHPL
- ^ Music in Disney's Animated Features Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs to the Jungle Book. Bohn,, James. University Press of Missisippi, 2017 "Sow Whie and the Seven Dwarfs as Operetta - "With A Smile and a Song" Ebook ISBN9781496812155 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs as Operetta on Google Books
- ^ The Disney Song Encyclopedia. Hishak, Thomas S. Robinson, Mark A. Scarecrow Press, Toronto 2009, p. XIV, A Brief History of Disney Music ISBN 978-0-8108-6938-7 Walt Disney With A Smile and a Song on Google books