Talk:Snorkel (swimming)

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Section sizes

Section size for Snorkel (swimming) (21 sections)
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(Top)	3,241	3,241
Types and nomenclature	454	454
Function	3,650	3,650
Operation	8,519	8,519
Applications	18	4,293
Surface snorkelling	1,056	1,056
Finswimming	1,248	1,248
Freediving	607	607
Scuba diving	1,364	1,364
History	26,464	26,464
Separate snorkels	1,095	13,737
Dimensions	4,154	4,154
Orientation and shape	2,889	2,889
Independent snorkel construction	5,599	5,599
Integrated snorkels	3,995	20,349
Integrated snorkel construction	3,096	3,096
Half-face snorkel masks	2,684	2,684
Full-face snorkel masks	10,574	10,574
Associated equipment	1,751	1,751
Safety and competition standards	4,477	4,477
References	3,616	3,616
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Pronunciation

I've heard a few people pronounce 'snorkel' as 'shnorkel' in English. Is there any basis for this? Strontium10538 (talk) 23:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leading British and American English dictionaries such as the Cambridge and the Merriam-Webster specify a pronunciation of the word "snorkel" starting with "sn" and not "shn". I too have heard some English speakers pronounce the word as "shnorkel", perhaps in deference to the original German loanword "Schnorchel", pronounced IPA: [ˈʃnɔʁçl̩], which does sound like "shn" at the start. The word for "snorkel" in Czech, "šnorchl", also comes from German and in the former language the "šn" in "šnorchl" is pronounced "shn". The "shnorkel" pronunciation of "snorkel" in English, however, is not the "official" pronunciation of the word in either American or British English. Helmardine (talk) 06:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anything significant missing?

Hi Helmardine, I have been busy expanding and copy editing the last while. If you have the time or inclination please take a look and let me know if you see any obvious errors or omissions. No rush, next year would be fine;-) Cheers, and all the best for the new year. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 17:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all your hard work on this article. There are no obvious errors in the text and any additions that I would want to make would be relatively minor. By way of example, the historical and recent use of dry suits for wilderness snorkelling in rivers and lakes, which makes a nice contrast with the popular image of snorkelling as an exclusively warm-water activity designed for tropical resorts. I have twenty-first century newspaper articles to evidence this new trend that can be referenced in this article and the "snorkeling" one. Helmardine (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helmardine That would be great, Wikipedia articles are seldom finished as there is nearly always something to add when we can find it. I had no idea there had been so much development in full face snorkeling masks, for example. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 16:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Full face snorkel-masks (FFSM)

It appears that a proposal was made in October-November 2022 at the British Standards Institution to introduce a standard on full-face snorkel masks. See https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/9022-07666#/section. Not widely advertised and I would have contributed comments if I had known about this. Helmardine (talk) 17:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the above, I have visited the BSI website, where I discovered at https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2023-00678#/section that the Full Face Snorkel Mask proposal has now reached the approval stage. The full title of the Standard: "BS 8647:2024 Respiratory equipment – Full-face snorkel masks – Specification and test method". The next stage is publication. I have submitted a proposal to BSI for a future Standard to include half-face snorkel-masks with eye and nose coverage but without mouth enclosure. From my perspective, a national Standard confined to full-face types of snorkel-masks represents an incomplete response to the issue of combined snorkel-masks.Helmardine (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2023-00678#/section, British Standard BS 8647:2024 Respiratory equipment – Full-face snorkel masks – Specification and test method started the publication stage on 29 October 2024. To date, however, this title has not been listed for purchase on the main BSI website.

Certain manufacturers and distributors have reportedly been associating specific FFSM models with an earlier European Standard, namely BS EN 136:1998 Respiratory protective devices – Full-face masks – Requirements, testing, marking. This document freely downloadable from https://www.lisungroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BS-EN-136-1998-Standard-Free-Download.pdf states explicitly, however, that "Full face masks for diving apparatus are not included in the scope of this European Standard".Helmardine (talk) 14:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]