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East Slavs (Rusyns)

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The article mentions Rusyns among East Slavs right in the lead. While it is agreed Rusyns are East Slavs, there are disputes if they can be characterized as distinct or not. Which source dedicated to East Slavs mentions Rusyns among them in overview / conclusion paragraphs, as this article is? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 13:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are listed as a distinct group in Ethnic Groups of Europe: An Encyclopedia, which says "Carpatho-Rusyns are recognized as a distinct group in all countries where they exist with the exception of Ukraine, which prefers to identity Carpatho-Rusyns as a subsection of the Ukrainian nation." The Ukrainian government, it says, "continues with the subethnos concept, refusing to recognize a distinct Carptho-Rusyn ethnic group." Mellk (talk) 07:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opening definition of "Slavs"

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"The Slavs or Slavic people are groups of people who speak Slavic languages." This is the opening definition in this article. It would follow that someone who learns to speak Russian or Polish is a Slav. This would tend to suggest immigrants to countries like Russia, Poland, Ukraine, who learn and speak the native language, are also to be considered Slavs. Clearly the word "Slavs" refers to an ethnic group, and not merely speakers of Slavic languages, so why does this opening definition make no mention of the fact? 120.88.155.223 (talk) 15:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]