Talk:Simone Badal-McCreath
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MBA
[edit]Did she obtain an MBA? Needs updating. Nicmart (talk) 04:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I obtained an MBA from the University of Wales, Cardiff. Simone Badal (talk) 01:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Cite error
[edit]After my editing at cite error now appears for ref 10, but I don't know how to fix it. Nicmart (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Allegation
[edit]@Simone Badal and SummerPocket: After having read the source and what's said in there, I don't feel the inclusion is warranted. It just says one accused another of this and that, but it doesn't say so in the source's voice about the accusations. Those of you who feels this really warrants a inclusion should start a discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard, but it's best to leave it off for now. Graywalls (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retraction Watch is a reliable source, unanimously voted as such in a previous discussion: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 197 - Wikipedia
- Credible accusations of plagiarism, sourced by a reliable monitor on this subject is clearly relevant to the academic career of the article's subject. SummerPocket (talk) 00:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. The article did not indicate that I Simone Badal plagiarised a chapter. The reporter did her investigation and found that the Publisher Elsevier acknowledged that an error in their type setting occurred that acknowledged current authors at the top of each chapter. It is also important to note that as authors we each sign over the rights to our content to the Publisher in an authorship agreement which the accuser acknowledged not reading on her social media post. I take plagiarism very seriously and I have spent a decade building my name and reputation. So I’m asking you to please ensure a thorough investigation be done in this matter. Should you require email proof from me, I’m happy to share. 104.244.230.145 (talk) 00:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @104.244.230.145:, whenever you're commenting please try to do so signed in so everyone knows who is who. Graywalls (talk) 00:27, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per 2015 discussion, not unanimously and not a vote. This comment by @Mastcell jumped out at me: "WP:BLP states that blogs may be acceptable if written by professionals and subject to good editorial control."
- It may have said that in 2015, but it doesn't say that now. If Retraction Watch is blog like WP says, it would seem to fail WP:BLPSPS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Correcting ping:@MastCell. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. The article did not indicate that I Simone Badal plagiarised a chapter. The reporter did her investigation and found that the Publisher Elsevier acknowledged that an error in their type setting occurred that acknowledged current authors at the top of each chapter. It is also important to note that as authors we each sign over the rights to our content to the Publisher in an authorship agreement which the accuser acknowledged not reading on her social media post. I take plagiarism very seriously and I have spent a decade building my name and reputation. So I’m asking you to please ensure a thorough investigation be done in this matter. Should you require email proof from me, I’m happy to share. 104.244.230.145 (talk) 00:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @GraywallsThanks for this. I’m now seeing that the content was removed. 104.244.230.145 (talk) 00:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
@SummerPocket:, in response to your message on my user talk page. We're not on the same page, but I am seeking outside comments at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Simone_Badal-McCreath Graywalls (talk) 01:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
COI
[edit]Regardless of plagiarism allegations, in moving forward with this article as a whole and proper procedure, it is poorly written for WP standards and needs a good scrubbing and MOS re-write to make it a readable article. Also, it took me a few passes to even assess notability for inclusion. She is one of five women to win the Elsevier Foundation Award and has written one book 1. Are the other 4 included here at WP? 2. How many researchers in the world have won one award and written a book that are not included at WP? But more importantly, the subject of this article must declare their COI and bring their future concerns here before simply editing the page themselves: Summary History Edit. WP has policy and protocol that must be followed. There are no exceptions. Especially when the subject makes threats of legal action toward other WP editors: I am now seeking legal counsel for the instigator of this matter.. This is an encyclopedia article, not a personal resume. It is not the property of the subject, as they referred to it as "my Wikipedia page". Maineartists (talk) 00:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Reconstruction of article
[edit]I will be placing a UC template at the header of this article while I work on improving its content. Presently there is a WP:CITEKILL occurring stating the same thing over and over again. At its essence, the subject is only known for two things presently: 1. <quote> "the creation of the first ever prostate and breast cancer cells lines that were derived from Black people" and 2. writing the book No Cells Left Behind. That should be the crux of this (almost stub) article. Unused or unnecessary sources that parrot the same information will be removed but can be found within the Summary History under "View History". All are welcome to assist during this period. I will remove the template once completed. Maineartists (talk) 15:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
EDIT I cleaned up the article and formatted it to WP standards and MOS. It reads better and creates a reason for notable inclusion. Removed overkill citations and moved some to Additional reading. Others were dead links or merely said the exact same information and did not add any new revelance, so I removed them completely. As for the above "controvery", the link is in "Additional reading". It is relevant to the subject, just not article content worthy. Maineartists (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
These are the link dump I trimmed.
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