Talk:Simon Greenstone Panatier/Archive 1
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No mass deletions please
Please do not delete large amounts of material, especially properly sourced material, without engaging other editors on the talk page. Anyhow, the article is looking better and better. :-) Classyklowngrasper (talk) 12:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Update Requested
Melcous,
We’ve noted the edits made by Classyclowngrasper and would ask that you consider reverting the copy to your previous version.
First things first: we’ve made it very clear, from the start, that we have a bias, i.e. the work we perform for the attorneys at Simon Greenstone. As such, we’ve tried very hard to work within the Wikipedia process where one has a conflict of interest. On the other hand, we still know nothing of Classyclowngrasper other than the fact that he or she has created negative content for Simon Greenstone, a firm engaged in representing those harmed by companies whose products contain asbestos. This writer created similar content for the Shein Law Center, another firm that represents people harmed by asbestos.
We would agree with your comments on a number of points, including:
• That Classyclowngrasper created this page for Simon Greenstone with nothing but negative content
• That, again as you point out, this comes off as an attack page, and is certainly more of such with the content that the writer has added back in
• That the reinsertion of this material constitutes excessive detail. All told, there are 413 words about this one case, nearly 10 times as many as the 48 words about two asbestos cases in which Simon Greenstone prevailed
• That the tags you created, indicating the article is in dispute, should be reinserted because, in fact, the article is in dispute
• That this writer has, on his or her own, decided what should and/or should not exist in the piece, in violation of Wikipedia’s established processes for writing and editing
For all of those reasons, your very own reasons, we would ask that the portions of this article dealing with racketeering be reset to reflect your edits and not the changes made by the writer. If however, the racketeering section is allowed to continue to exist in its current form, we would ask for the ability to supply a similar amount of detail for those cases cited in the “Asbestos Cases” portion of this profile.
In our view, this is a matter of simple fairness. If the writer is going to be allowed to go on, ad infinitum, with regard to the racketeering and quote voluminously only those portions of the court record that support the asbestos defendants, we should be allowed to do likewise in those cases where juries have awarded millions of dollars on behalf of those individuals who have been harmed by those very same asbestos defendants.
Thanks for your consideration on this.
Mark
MarkAnnick (talk) 18:45, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Wikipedia only requires that content be properly sourced and not give undue weight. There is no requirement that the article be positive. Your article is negative because most of the coverage about your firm is negative. The article focuses on the RICO suits because most secondary sources focus on the RICO suits. As for supplying additional material, I an all other editors, surely welcome it. Please do note that you will have to meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources. Your press releases and your firm's website will not generally meet those standards. Post the clips on the cases you want covered and I will add that material myself.Classyklowngrasper (talk) 11:39, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Undue weight
Hi! Please make your case for shortening down the section on the racketeering litigation. BTW, I think many of your other edits were great. Classyklowngrasper (talk) 12:59, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, first as above, someone from the firm has objected (and did so in the appropriate way given their WP:COI, despite the problematic formatting) and I think they have a valid argument. This article was created about a law firm and all it included was content about one case which paints them in a pretty negative light. The article is not about that case, it is about the law firm, so there needs to be content about much more than this. At this stage, with the dearth of other information, this comes off as pretty close to an attack page and definitely WP:UNDUE.
- You will also see on the talk page of the above COI editor that I thought many of their suggestions had the opposite problem of being promotional so I didn't include them. What I did was attempt some basic research online myself and found a few bits and pieces to add, and then I pruned the section on the racketeering. I haven't changed the overall tone or conclusions of that section, however I deleted what I think is excessive detail about one particular lawsuit in an article about an entire firm, especially given the brevity of the rest of the article.
- What is the rationale for including it? In particular, what is the rationale for including quotes from the particular motions filed? I think the length of what you want to include makes the article completely unbalanced and gives undue weight to one particular case. I don't know what your particular familiarity with this firm is, but the fact that you created the article and then removed tags that I added to suggest the content is disputed (which it clearly is, by the firm itself and also by me) also seems inappropriate to me, i.e. that you are basically deciding that your own work is acceptable without letting the opinions of other editors (at least one of whom might be more neutral? As I said, I don't know what your purpose for creating the article is) carry any weight. Thanks Melcous (talk) 13:12, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- I am going to go look for some additional articles myself and see if I can expand upon your work. I will explain why I think you wrong on undue weight a bit later. Classyklowngrasper (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- As far as undue weight goes, go Google the firm. Once you see the sources that are out there you will see that their is no such issue here.Classyklowngrasper (talk) 11:54, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- I am going to go look for some additional articles myself and see if I can expand upon your work. I will explain why I think you wrong on undue weight a bit later. Classyklowngrasper (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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5-APR-2018
Melcous,
It’s good to talk to you again. I’m Mark Annick, the COI editor who works with Simon Greenstone. You and I discussed the Simon Greenstone page back in 2016 when another editor was making changes to the page, and you were very helpful in making some additional edits that we requested.
First things first: my apologies. One of our group was looking at the page and inadvertently deleted the material with regard to racketeering. This was an honest error on our part and I hope you’ll accept my apology.
I’m writing now to seek some additional edits and, once again, am sending these to you directly rather than making them on the page, per Wikipedia’s rules. I’ve pasted the current version of the Wikipedia copy below and have suggested some edits/additions, as well as footnotes that you can cite.
We note that since our last correspondence, the user who created all of the negative content about Simon Greenstone – Classyklowngrasper – has been blocked indefinitely from Wikipedia, as there is evidence that he or she used multiple accounts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Classyklowngrasper
Given that, and because the content Classyklowngrasper wrote was overdetailed and created with no purpose other than to make the firm look bad, and because both of the cases have since been dismissed, we are asking that Wikipedia delete the Racketeering portion in its entirety. If that’s not possible, we would ask for edits to the Racketeering portion of this entry, which the now-banned contributor created.
If neither of those is possible, we would ask that you allow a change in the ordering of this, so as to deemphasize the negative content, which again, was created by a now-banned contributor.
Beyond that, we’ve suggested new information on opioids, as that is an area where Jeffrey Simon is doing a great amount of work. We’ve also suggested additions in the Asbestos area, as the firm has won more verdicts, and we have added some information with regard to awards.
In all of these, we have provided the appropriate citations, which we have placed at the bottom of this note. On one issue only – the number of opioid cases that Jeffrey currently is working on – I do not have a citation, as no one has reported that. The information comes from him directly.
Please let me know whether you have any questions.
Thanks, Mark
Mark Annick Androvett Legal Media 214-559-4630
MarkAnnick (talk) 19:14, 5 April 2018 (UTC) MarkAnnick (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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[hide] • 1History • 2Asbestos cases o 2.1Racketeering • 3Philanthropy • 4External links • 5References History[edit] The firm was founded as Simon, Eddins & Greenstone in 2005 by two lawyers from Waters & Kraus.[1] Jeffrey Simon is one of the firm's founding partners. As of December 2015, Simon was head of the Texas Trial Lawyers Association.[2][3] Simon holds an undergraduate degree from Colgate University and a law degree from the University of Texas.[4] Opioids On September 29, 2017, Jeffrey Simon filed a lawsuit on behalf of Upshur County in East Texas against a number of pharmaceutical companies for their role in creating and promoting the nation’s opioid epidemic. (1) The lawsuit represented the very first time that a Texas county had sued the companies. (2) Altogether, Mr. Simon now represents 44 counties and cities in Texas and Montana. One of Simon’s clients – Ector County, Texas – is home to the West Texas city of Odessa, the county seat. A study shows Odessa has the 15th highest opioid abuse rate in the United States. (3) Asbestos cases[edit] Simon Greenstone has represented numerous plaintiffs in asbestos-related cases, particularly victims of mesothelioma. In 2014, a Dallas County jury awarded a mesothelioma sufferer $18.6 million in damages, including $15 million in punitive damages.[5] In April 2016 an Arizona federal jury awarded $17 million in a wrongful death action.[6] In 2017, a Dallas County jury awarded $8.8 million to the family of Billy Dickson. Mr. Dickson had been exposed to asbestos while working at Bell Helicopter. He later developed mesothelioma and died. (4) Top Verdicts TopVerdict.com recognized Simon Greenstone for the largest jury verdict in Arizona in 2016. (6)That case, Coulbourn v. Crane, involved a $17 million jury award to the family of George Coulbourn, a retired civilian U.S. Navy employee who died of mesothelioma. In the same year, the organization also recognized Simon Greenstone for the largest asbestos case verdict in California. That case, Depoian v. American International Industries, Inc., prominent California political figure Philip Depoian, who was diagnosed with mesothelioma in 2015. Philanthropy[edit] Simon Greenstone provides $50,000 college scholarships for Dallas students whose lives have been disrupted by cancer.[10][11] Racketeering[edit] Simon Greenstone was one of five law firms sued for violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) by asbestos gasket manufacturer Garlock Sealing Technologies in January 2014. The case against Simon Greenstone and the other law firms has since been dismissed. On January 25, 2016, John Crane filed to intervene in the suit against Simon Greenstone and made racketeering claims distinct from those made by Garlock.[8] That case has since been dismissed. (5) 1. https://www.dallasnews.com/business/health-care/2017/10/04/northeast-texas-county-becomes-first-state-sue-pharma-companies-opioid-crisis 2. https://www.law.com/texaslawyer/sites/texaslawyer/2017/10/09/dallas-lawyer-takes-on-the-drug-industry-in-a-first-of-its-kind-federal-case/ 3. http://www.oaoa.com/people/health/article_a0d053de-1292-11e8-afe2-4b43a6ee2d2e.html 4. http://www.amarillo.com/business/local-news/news/2017-03-29/bell-ordered-pay-88-million-former-engineer-exposed-asbestos 5. https://www.lexislegalnews.com/articles/15908/judges-dismiss-john-crane-s-rico-suits-against-lawyers-for-lack-of-jurisdiction 6. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/simon-greenstone-earns-2016-top-verdict-recognition-in-california-arizona-300476802.html 7.
However, on the firm’s behalf, I would ask that you consider a couple of things, including the background and motivation of the individual who created this page, identified as “classyklowngrasper.” It appears that this author’s only submissions to Wikipedia are the Simon Greenstone page and one for Shein Law Center, both law firms involved in litigation against John Crane Co. That the author would create pages for these two law firms only – pages with negative content about them – and that he or she would be editing pages for Crane and Garlock – both longtime asbestos defendants (two of Simon Greenstone's courtroom opponents), should raise questions about his or her impartiality and intent. For those reasons then, we would ask that you delete this page. However, if the page is going to remain active, we would suggest the following as edits: <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 14"> <link rel=File-List href="SG%20Wiki%20Page%2010-10-16_files/filelist.xml"> <title>Wikipedia Article (N3301455).DOCX</title> <link rel=themeData href="SG%20Wiki%20Page%2010-10-16_files/themedata.thmx"> <link rel=colorSchemeMapping href="SG%20Wiki%20Page%2010-10-16_files/colorschememapping.xml"> <style> </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'> Simon Greenstone Panatier Bartlett, PC<o:p></o:p> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<o:p></o:p> Simon Greenstone Panatier Bartlett, PC, is a nationally recognized law firm based in Dallas, Texas. The firm’s trial lawyers represent individuals and families in a variety of areas including: <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>mesothelioma and other toxic torts, <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>dangerous pharmaceuticals, <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>products liability, <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>catastrophic injury/wrongful death and <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>serious commercial litigation.<o:p></o:p> Contents<o:p></o:p> [<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett">hide</a>] <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#Racketeering">1Racketeering</a><o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#Leadership">2Leadership</a><o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>o <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#Jeffrey_Simon">2.1Jeffrey Simon</a><o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#References">3References</a><o:p></o:p> Recognition/Honors<o:p></o:p> Among the many honors Simon Greenstone attorneys have received are the following:<o:p></o:p> Verdict Search – The firm was honored in 2014 for having won two of the largest verdicts in Texas, including an $18.6 million verdict in a toxic tort case on behalf of the family of Carl Rogers, who developed mesothelioma after working at a Goodyear tire plant for 30 years; the family was represented by firm shareholder Christopher J. Panatier and associate Darren McDowell. In the second of the two cases, a jury awarded $4.1 million to Bobbie Bush, based on injuries she suffered in a collision with a tractor trailer; Ms. Bush was represented by firm associate Ron McCallum. (See additional footnote 1)<o:p></o:p> ABOTA (American Board of Trial Advocates) – Founding partner Jeffrey Simon is a member of this prestigious organization, which seeks to preserve the Seventh Amendment right to jury trials. Membership is by invitation only and prospective members are required to have conducted at least 10 jury trials to verdict. (See additional footnote 2)<o:p></o:p> National Bar Association – Firm lawyer Erin Nowell was named to the 2016 National Bar Association “40 Under 40 Best Advocates” list, which honors young attorneys and their accomplishments. (See additional footnote 3)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Mesothelioma Case Results<o:p></o:p> Simon Greenstone attorneys have prevailed in cases in which they represented individuals who were harmed by products containing asbestos, including those who fell victim to the fatal lung disease mesothelioma.<o:p></o:p> In 2016, a jury in Phoenix, Arizona, awarded $17 million to George Coulbourn, who died in 2012 less than one year after having been diagnosed with mesothelioma. Coulbourn had worked as a shipyard machinist and one of his tasks involved removing asbestos-containing gaskets and packing from valves manufactured by Crane Co. (NYSE:CR) Mr. Coulbourn’s family was represented by firm shareholder David Greenstone as well as associates Jordan Blumenfeld-James and Sam Iola . The case is Sandra Brown Coulbourn, surviving wife and on behalf of decedent’s surviving statutory beneficiaries, George Coulbourn, Jr., Scott Alan Coulbourn and Shannon Coulbourn Moses v. Crane Co., et al., No. CV 3:13-cv-08141-PCT-SRB. (See additional footnote 4)<o:p></o:p> In another mesothelioma case, firm shareholder Christopher Panatier represented the family of Carl Rogers. Mr. Rogers worked as a tire builder at Kelly-Springfield Tire Co., a Goodyear subsidiary in Tyler, Texas. Evidence in the case showed he was exposed to asbestos through the Goodyear machines he worked with at the plant and through maintenance work performed on asbestos-wrapped piping. The jury in that case awarded $18.6 million to Mr. Rogers’ family. (See additional footnote 5)<o:p></o:p> RICO Cases Simon Greenstone was sued for violations of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act" title="Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act">Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act</a> (RICO) by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garlock_Sealing_Technologies" title="Garlock Sealing Technologies">Garlock</a> Sealing Technologies in January 2014. Garlock made its argument by
examining the court records from 15 cases where it paid a settlement or Simon Greenstone denied Garlock’s allegations and filed a detailed RICO counterclaim against Garlock.<o:p></o:p> On January 25, 2016, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Crane_Group" title="John Crane Group">John Crane</a> filed to intervene in the suit against Simon Greenstone. In its motion John Crane stated, "(JCI) and (Garlock) were both harmed by the same fraudulent enterprise operated by Defendant Simon Greenstone Panatier Bartlett and various of its principals who are also defendants. (JCI) therefore has a significant interest in both the underlying fraudulent transactions – various asbestos-related tort cases – and this action itself."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-OJ-1">[1]</a> John Crane also made racketeering claims against Simon Greenstone distinct from those made by Garlock.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-KJ-2">[2]</a><o:p></o:p> Simon Greenstone and Garlock reached a settlement in March 2016, which required that neither party pay the other any money(footnote). EnPro, Garlock's parent company, agreed to form a $480 million bankruptcy trust to resolve all current and future asbestos claims. In February of the same year, Simon Greenstone filed a breach-of-contract suit against John Crane in federal court in Los Angeles, California. Simon Greenstone alleged that John Crane violated previous settlement agreements when it filed to intervene in the Garlock case.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-KJ-2">[2]</a><o:p></o:p> In June 2016, John Crane filed an independent RICO suit against Simon Greenstone. The complaint said, "The defendants fabricated false asbestos ‘exposure histories’ for their clients in asbestos litigation against JCI and others and systematically concealed evidence of their clients’ exposure to other sources of asbestos.”<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-OJ2-3">[3]</a><o:p></o:p> Simon Greenstone denies these allegations has filed a motion to dismiss that case and currently that motion is pending before the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois. <o:p></o:p> Leadership[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett&action=edit§ion=2" title="Edit section: Leadership">edit</a>]<o:p></o:p> Jeffrey Simon[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett&action=edit§ion=3" title="Edit section: Jeffrey Simon">edit</a>]<o:p></o:p> Simon is one of the firm's founding partners. As of December 2015, Simon was head of the Texas Trial Lawyers Association.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-texaslawyer-4">[4]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-abajournal-5">[5]</a><o:p></o:p> Simon opposed legislation introduced in the Texas House of Representatives to require asbestos plaintiffs to make claims against bankruptcy trusts before filing suit.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-prnewswire-6">[6]</a><o:p></o:p> Simon holds an undergraduate degree from Colgate University and a law degree from the University of Texas.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_note-yahoo-7">[7]</a><o:p></o:p> References[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett&action=edit§ion=4" title="Edit section: References">edit</a>]<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>1. <![endif]>^ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ_1-0">Jump up to:a</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ_1-1">b</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ_1-2">c</a> O'Brien, John (26 January 2016). <a href="http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510659910-another-company-making-racketeering-claims-against-asbestos-lawyers">"Another company making racketeering claims against asbestos lawyers"</a>. Legal NewsLine. United States. Retrieved 26 January 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2. <![endif]>^ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-KJ_2-0">Jump up to:a</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-KJ_2-1">b</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-KJ_2-2">c</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-KJ_2-3">d</a> Karmasek, Jessica (24 March 2016). <a href="http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510702912-asbestos-firm-says-it-has-settled-with-garlock-in-rico-suit">"Asbestos firm says it settled with Garlock in RICO suit"</a>. Legal NewsLine. United States. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3. <![endif]>^ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ2_3-0">Jump up to:a</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ2_3-1">b</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-OJ2_3-2">c</a> O'Brien, John (6 June 2016). <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/legalnewsline/2016/06/06/despite-garlock-settlement-asbestos-lawyers-cant-shake-racketeering-claims-yet/#44c117365e7f">"Despite Garlock Settlement, Asbestos Lawyers Can't Shake Racketeering Claims Yet"</a>. Forbes. New York, NY. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>4. <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-texaslawyer_4-0">Jump up^</a> <a href="http://www.texaslawyer.com/id=1202744550749/Dallas-Lawyer-Takes-Helm-of-Texas-Trial-Lawyers-Association?slreturn=20160826045620">"Dallas Lawyer Takes Helm of Texas Trial Lawyers Association | Texas Lawyer"</a>. texaslawyer.com. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>5. <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-abajournal_5-0">Jump up^</a> <a href="http://www.abajournal.com/mobile/mag_article/plaintiffs_in_california_asbestos_cases_feel_theyre_being_questioned_to_dea">"Plaintiffs in California asbestos cases feel they're being questioned to death"</a>. abajournal.com. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>6. <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-prnewswire_6-0">Jump up^</a> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dallas-mesothelioma-attorney-jeffrey-simon-says-hypocritical-house-bill-potentially-devastating-for-asbestos-victims-300080045.html">"Dallas Mesothelioma Attorney Jeffrey Simon says ’Hypocritical’ House Bill Potentially Devastating"</a>. prnewswire.com. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>7. <![endif]><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenstone_Panatier_Bartlett#cite_ref-yahoo_7-0">Jump up^</a> <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jeffrey-simon-recognized-continental-whos-184100751.html">"Jeffrey Simon is recognized by Continental Who's Who among Pinnacle Professionals - Yahoo Finance"</a>. finance.yahoo.com. Retrieved 26 September 2016.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additional footnote 1<o:p></o:p> “Attorneys at Dallas’ Simon Greenstone Panatier Bartlett Win 2 of Texas’ Top Verdicts for 2014.” Prnewswire.com <o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/attorneys-at-dallas-simon-greenstone-panatier-bartlett-win-2-of-texas-top-verdicts-for-2014-300088647.html">http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/attorneys-at-dallas-simon-greenstone-panatier-bartlett-win-2-of-texas-top-verdicts-for-2014-300088647.html</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additional footnote 2<o:p></o:p> “Jeffrey Simon is Recognized by Continental Who’s Who Among Pinnacle Professionals.” Prnewswire.com <o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jeffrey-simon-is-recognized-by-continental-whos-who-among-pinnacle-professionals-300211512.html">http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jeffrey-simon-is-recognized-by-continental-whos-who-among-pinnacle-professionals-300211512.html</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additional footnote 3<o:p></o:p> “Erin Nowell of Dallas Named Among Top Young Litigators.” Prnewswire.com<o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/simon-greenstones-erin-nowell-of-dallas-named-among-top-young-litigators-300290558.html">http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/simon-greenstones-erin-nowell-of-dallas-named-among-top-young-litigators-300290558.html</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additional footnote 4<o:p></o:p> “$17M Award in Asbestos Death of Navy Civilian Employee in Arizona.” Insurance Journal <o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2016/04/22/406255.htm">http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2016/04/22/406255.htm</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Additional footnote 5<o:p></o:p> “Family gets $18.6M Goodyear mesothelioma case.” Tyler Morning Telegraph/Tylerpaper.com<o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-News%20Local/204924/family-gets-186m-goodyear-mesothelioma-case">http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-News%20Local/204924/family-gets-186m-goodyear-mesothelioma-case</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </body> </html>
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Melcous, It’s good to talk to you again. I’m Mark Annick, the COI editor who works with Simon Greenstone. You and I discussed the Simon Greenstone page back in 2016 when another editor was making changes to the page, and you were very helpful in making some additional edits that we requested. First things first: my apologies. A couple of weeks ago, one of our group was looking at the page and inadvertently deleted the material with regard to racketeering. This was an honest error on our part and I hope you’ll accept my apology. I’m writing now to seek some additional edits and, once again, am sending these to you directly rather than making them on the page, per Wikipedia’s rules. I’ve pasted the current version of the Wikipedia copy below and have suggested some edits/additions, as well as footnotes that you can cite. We note that since our last correspondence, the user who created all of the negative content about Simon Greenstone – Classyklowngrasper – has been blocked indefinitely from Wikipedia, as there is evidence that he or she used multiple accounts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Classyklowngrasper Given that, and because the content Classyklowngrasper wrote was overdetailed and created with no purpose other than to make the firm look bad, and because both of the cases have since been dismissed, we are asking that Wikipedia delete the Racketeering portion in its entirety. If that’s not possible, we would ask for edits to the Racketeering portion of this entry, which the now-banned contributor created. If neither of those is possible, we would ask that you allow a change in the ordering of this, so as to deemphasize the negative content, which again, was created by a now-banned contributor. Beyond that, we’ve suggested new information on opioids, as that is an area where Jeffrey Simon is doing a great amount of work. We’ve also suggested additions in the Asbestos area, as the firm has won more verdicts, and we have added some information with regard to awards. In all of these, we have provided the appropriate citations, which we have placed at the bottom of this note. On one issue only – the number of opioid cases that Jeffrey currently is working on – I do not have a citation, as no one has reported that. The information comes from him directly. Please let me know whether you have any questions. Thanks, Mark
Simon Greenstone Panatier Bartlett is a law firm based in Dallas, Texas, specializing in personal injury litigation and tort liability.
MarkAnnick (talk) 19:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC) ResponseHi Mark MarkAnnick, I have made some of the requested edits but not others, as I will explain below. First, a couple of things to keep in mind
With regards to the specific request above, you will see that I have added a sentence with the reference stating that the $17 million verdict was the largest in Arizona in 2016, however I have tried to keep the wording neutral - giving it a separate heading and using phrases like "TopVerdict.com recognized Simon Greenstone ..." would not be not neutral; they make it sound like an award rather than an acknowledgment that the verdict (not the firm) is the largest. You will also note that I have not deleted the information about the racketeering because you gave no reasons why it should be removed and it is sourced. You wanted the content changed to say that the 2014 case was dismissed, but the reference says it was settled. I have added that the 2016 case was dismissed, but included the reason cited in the source (wrong jurisdiction), as leaving this out would be cherry-picking the sources to make it sound more favourable than it is. Melcous (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC) Some proposed changes
This is Mark, the COI editor. Thanks for the note. My apologies for not having seen it earlier. I think you're correct that taking these one at a time would be better. Could we begin with the firm name please? It recently changed to Simon Greenstone Panatier, PC. Here's the website for reference: http://www.sgptrial.com/ Could we make that change please? Thanks for your help. Mark MarkAnnick (talk) 20:37, 8 June 2018 (UTC) Reply 08-JUN-2018Requests for changes to the article's name must go through the requested moves process, which takes about 10 days to complete. During that process two things will take place:
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