Talk:Sicilian Defence, Accelerated Dragon

This article was nominated for deletion on 1 March 2023. The result of the discussion was keep.

Naming

Is the following naming correct?

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 g6 - Hyperaccelerated Dragon or Hungarian Variation

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 - Accelerated Fianchetto or Accelerated Dragon

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 - Dragon SunCreator (talk) 21:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. (Apologies: I overlooked that you have 2... Nc6 in the third line. As the user below states, it should be 2... d6.) 91.105.1.194 (talk) 22:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. The regular Dragon move order is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6. The early 2...Nc6 combined with 5...g6 is a playable but clearly inferior system, due to 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.e5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumo75 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

you say that is 8. 0-0, white looses a pawn. at firt he does, but what if when d5 bishop menaces the same knight that is already menaced bi the white one? white takes back his pawn, +, and black looses the castle, and has to change queens. there's no extra pawn for the black, there's just two pawns in the same "line" and no castle, with all that implies. you should chech that, if i'm wrong i'd like do know where —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.137.34.44 (talk) 02:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article states that 8. O-O loses a pawn... this is certainly not the case. 8.O-O Ne4 9. Ne4 d5 10. Bd3 or 10. Bd5 both preserve the pawn, although the game is then equal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cryptochess (talk • contribs) 05:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the following ... "If white plays 8. 0-0 or 8. f3, black can win a pawn. For example, 8. 0-0 Nxe4, 9. Nxe4 d5, or 8. f3 Qb6. After, 8. Bb3 black can try to put pressure on the defenders of d5."

... because it´s completely crap. After 8. 0-0, 8...Nxe4 is the best move, but as it was correctly seen by others, that´s not winning a pawn in any line, it´s just an equalizer. Regarding 8.f3 the article is a little bit less wrong. 8.f3 is bad for white after 8...Qb6, but still not losing a pawn by force. And the sentence regarding "pressure on the defenders of d5" does not make any sense at all. Of course d5 is an important square in all dragon systems. But you don´t "put pressure" on the Nc3 or the Bb3. Sometimes (rarely in the line that we see here) you kick it away with b7-b5-b4, if white permits that. Sometimes you sacrifice the exchange with Rxc3. But you never put pressure on it ... you don´t put pressure on minor and major pieces in general, unless they are in a bind, or otherwise immobilized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumo75 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

I think this article should be merged with Sicilian Defence, Dragon Variation. This article is somewhat short. Mast303 (talk) 02:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]