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Language correction

Just a small correstion. Words like upanayana and sagothra are not words from tulu but are from sanskrit. Isn't it appropriate to state that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.163.25.48 (talk • contribs) 05:58, 30 March 2007

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Unsourced statement

Someone put this statement, "It is currently thought that the lowly role amongst the latter was due to an attempt at maintaining line purity by the first Shivali Brahmin men who migrated to the South and married local (non-Brahmin) fisher women." Generally, in most traditional Brahmin societies, women's roles in religion were limited. So there is no reference supporting this statement. So I have removed the statement. Raj2004 (talk) 23:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are the Shivalli Deshasthas?

We would like to use the Upanayanam picture in this article for Deshastha Brahmin. But the picture is not admissible unless we prove it's a Deshastha boy's upanayanam. Can you confirm or deny that the Shivalli Brahmins are Deshastha like the Madhva Brahmins from North Karnataka? Thanks. Zuggernaut (talk) 05:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

no they are not.11:28, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Truth about shivallis

"It is currently thought that the lowly role amongst the latter was due to an attempt at maintaining line purity by the first Shivali Brahmin men who migrated to the South and married local (non-Brahmin) fisher women." This statement is the real fact  and shivallis are really born in this way from moger/marakalas/fisherwoman and also other caste woman.So they are having kulanamas like baris of shoodras with names ending with aaya,naaya ,thaaya, laaya.e.g shoodra name paduvannaya is also there in shivallis.See the similarities like kotiyannaya became kotian ,saliyannaya became saliyan similarly this kulanamas. It indicates from where and which caste we shivallis married for the first time. Refer Tulunadu for this. There was no need of removing the statement-- shreesha kedilaya  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivashambo (talk • contribs) 05:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fisher woman reference

I removed this statement "On the fourth day there is a symbolic representation of fish catching in brides house to represent the actual origins of shivalli women from mogers (i.e. fisherwoman)and other castes.^[1]. " There is no academic reference supporting this statement.Raj2004 (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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