Talk:Shikand-gumanig Vizar
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POV and OR
[edit]In the section on Islam, 20th century scholar Maulana Muhammad Ali is cited. In the section on Judaism, The Book of Job is cited. Both are given, essentially, as rebuttals to Mardan-Farrukh's critique of these two religions. This is absolutely unacceptable. No source states that either of these "apologists" was responding to Mardan-Farrukh. This article should be about this specific treatise (and possibly about specific responses to it, if there had been any). Any addition explaining what representatives of the criticized religions might have responded is speculative (WP:Original Research, see specifically Synthesis of published material that advances a position), irrelevant, and a way for the editor to covertly defend their preferred theological position (WP:POV). And it is made particularly absurd by the fact that these religions are extremely dominant, so they certainly don't need their point of view to be defended in this article as well. --91.148.159.4 (talk) 23:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- The strong emotional charge evident in the above "POV and OR" is palpable. Such emotions, here taken as genuine, should be respected for what they are worth. For despite bringing a great deal of heat they may also generate a share of light. Often such emotions originate elsewhere, and inappropriate freight may cause confusion, exaggerations, and misreadings.
- That the above "POV and OR" seems to advance a strong point of view of its own may be inferred from its initial mischaracterization of the article's effort to discuss with neutrality competing POVs as instead a partisan effort at "rebuttal". Yet its own strong POV is expresslly revealed in its last sentence.
- Yet the above does, nonetheless, convey its share of light. However difficult of execution, in all its aspects a Wikipedia article should clearly appear to give due regard to ALL relevant points of view. Accordingly, significant additions have been made to one of the sections that is the subject of the above complaint, and major changes in the other section are in the process of being made. It is hoped that the results of these efforts will improve the article. Elfelix (talk) 19:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
[edit]I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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- There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:23, 30 June 2013 (UTC)