Talk:Seis am Schlern
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[edit]It seems that the name "Siusi allo Sciliar" is more commonly used in English than "Seis am Schlern" (siusi allo sciliar: 2,540 hits; seis am schlern: 1,920 hits). It is better to leave the article where it is at this moment.--Supparluca 10:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Indiscriminate Google searches, especially so close, are not conclusive per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Widely accepted name: "Always look at search results, don't just count them". Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)# Multiple local names states, specifically with a view to South tyrol, that where there is "no indication of a widely used English name, those articles are placed according to the language of the linguistic majority". If this is in this case German, then the German name has to be used as article title. This applies also to all the other reverts you have made today. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 22:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Why did you write over Noclador's comment? Anyway, here you can find how to decide to use one name or the other:
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- A number of methods can be used to identify which of a pair (or more) conflicting names is the most prevalent in English.
- The Google test. Using Google's advanced search option, search for each conflicting name and confine the results to pages written in English; also exclude the word "Wikipedia" (as we want to see what other people are using, not our own usage). Note which is the most commonly used term.
- International organisations. Search for the conflicting names on the websites of organisations such as the United Nations, NATO, OSCE, IMF, etc.
- Major English-language media outlets. Use Google News and, where possible, the archives of major outlets such as BBC News and CNN to identify common usages. Some media organisations have established style guides covering naming issues, which can provide useful guidance (e.g. The Guardian's style guide says use Ukraine, not the Ukraine).
- Reference works. Check other encyclopedias. If there is general agreement on the use of a name (as there often will be), that is usually a good sign of the name being the preferred term in English.
- Geographic name servers. Check geographic name servers such as the NGIA GNS server at http://gnswww.nga.mil/geonames/GNS/index.jsp .
- Scientific nomenclature. Check usage by international bodies like CIPM, IUPAP, IUPAC, and other scientific bodies concerned with nomenclature; consider also the national standards agencies NIST and NPL. Consult style guides of scientific journals.
- A number of methods can be used to identify which of a pair (or more) conflicting names is the most prevalent in English.
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- Google comes first: siusi allo sciliar: 2,540 hits; seis am schlern: 1,920 hits.
- Then you have International organisations: can't find anything.
- Google news: siusi 4 - seis 1.
- Other encyclopedias: I don't know, probably they use "Siusi"
- Geographic name servers: the NGIA GNS server is down, but I'm quite sure it uses the name "Siusi". TGN uses "Siusi".
- Scientific nomenclature: can't find anything.--Supparluca 13:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Same story as in Passer (river), there is no clear English preference for one of the two names, so we take the one used by the local majority. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 18:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Supparluca, you "forgot" Google Books and Google Scholar: