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Speculation section

I think it makes sense to create a section to show who is being speculated for positions. I know they may not be entirely reliable but many people are interested and I think it will consolidate news stories. Jgtrevor (talk) 02:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree 156.34.42.177 (talk) 06:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about this as well, especially seeing how there's already a section covering speculative nominees in the Second presidency of Donald Trump#Cabinet article. Obviously every speculative nominee/person will have to be reliably sourced. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Unfortunately I will have to disagree with this one as speculation has been quite diverse and it would probably create too substantial an editing burden when the nominations will be confirmed soon regardless. Pseudoname1 (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marco Rubio

Multiple sources have confirmed that Marco Rubio is expected to be nominated as Secretary of State. We can rely on multiple news outlets, the source doesn't have to be Trump himself. It would be nice to have a conversation about this before undoing edits. Thanks. Jgtrevor (talk) 04:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that a confirmation by Trump himself carries more weight than media sources in this case. If Rubio or Noem are really nominated, he'd have announced it already, until then, it's speculation. Helvianir (talk) 09:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. 68.7.223.154 (talk) 23:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WSJ reports "Donald Trump has chosen Kristi Noem to lead the Department of Homeland Security, according to people familiar with the matter." Is this adequate confirmation to publish here? Irishbugs (talk) 12:58, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not. It's not a confirmation by the Trump Transition Team or Trump himself on say, Truth Social, at all. Helvianir (talk) 17:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Miller

Since deputy chief of staff for policy is not a cabinet-level position, Stephen Miller should not be included on this page. Miller should be included on the Political appointments by Donald Trump in his second term page. --Lexicon Insight (talk) 14:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Just removed him. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kristi Noem is not yet confirmed by the camapign

She should be removed until an official statement from Trump/his campaign is made. Futuremaineretiree (talk) 14:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. This is how cabinet picks are made – through media reporting. Trump doesn't have to release a statement announcing each nominee. Jgtrevor (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i hate to break it to you, neither Rubio nor Noem are announced by Trump himself. Helvianir (talk) 17:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did any of the sources confirm it with Trump’s Press Team? 207.96.32.81 (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really do think we should remove both Senator Rubio and Governor Noem. The New York Times articles about both note either that "Mr. Trump could still change his mind at the last minute" (about Rubio) or, in the case of Noem, that "[a] Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment." Yes, per WP:CRYSTALBALL, predictions from reliable sources are allowed, but they are not, in this case, official. As such, absent official confirmation from the transition team or the President-elect himself, it would be WP:CRYSTALBALL for us to state otherwise, I think. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 23:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We now have that statement. Trumpi (talk) 02:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Department of Government Efficiency

Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead a "Department of Government Efficiency." Should we include this in the article? It's not clear to my knowledge whether this will be a new executive-branch department and Musk and Ramaswamy will be official members of the cabinet, but it still seems worthwhile to at least mention either way. DecafPotato (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should at least be mentioned somewhere. 156.34.42.177 (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the announcement, it appears as though they will be working with the Office of Management and Budget "from outside of Government", and it appears as though neither of them will be the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.

If the DOGE was to be a new executive-branch department, it is my understanding that Congress needs to pass a bill to create that department. Trumpi (talk) 02:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the DOGE is being described as a Presidential Commission elsewhere. Trumpi (talk) 02:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If that’s true, then I can’t see why it’s worth mentioning here. Perhaps it’s better mentioned under the political appointments article. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]