Talk:Sebastian Bergne

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This guy can't get a break...

Hello Magnolia677, I was trying to tidy-up this article after Justlettersandnumbers edits removing fluff and puffery. Some of the link-farm links you axed seemed relevant and worth keeping (I was going to pare them back a bit over the next few days). As you are both very senior editors, I'm not inclined to question either of your editorial judgement, but it seems to me that Bergne is a BLP subject who is worth expanding, not reducing. Any advice or guidance you're able to offer would be much appreciated. Also, same question again: What, pray-tell, is/was "the London art school mess"? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cl3phact0: There just seemed to be a lot of external links for a stubish article. There are two others in "further reading". Feel free to revert if you think it will help the article. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Magnolia677, I won't revert per-se (I don't think I've ever done that), but as I get my head around the merits of the material, I may try to re-build the section a bit. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 19:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Cl3phact0, whatever happens, please don't stop working to improve this or any other page – your contributions make a valuable difference. I hope you'll agree that most of the content I removed was entirely unencyclopaedic, and also hope you'll have forgiven me for having in the process inadvertently removed a sentence you had added. I can't speak for Magnolia677, but my take on external links is that they are only (very) rarely necessary at all; I routinely remove them, so often that I have a standard edit summary for when I do so: "clear WP:LINKFARM – if they're independent and reliable they can be used as references; if not, why are they here?". If I may suggest, using the good ones as refs is probably a good course here too. Of course other editors will have other opinions on this, and there'll inevitably be some "the more, the better" advocates among them; but I'm with Mies van der Rohe on this. I'll answer your other question on your talk-page. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:23, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all! You've been very helpful and given me loads of good advice, for which I thank you. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cl3phact0: "your contributions make a valuable difference"...I agree completely. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:04, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Justlettersandnumbers: For a nice riff on Mies van der Rohe, see Dieter Rams: "less, but better" (German: Weniger, aber besser). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 03:58, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Last comment may not technically belong on this Talk page – although Bergne does seem to be in this lineage.

Hello Justlettersandnumbers, I remembered what I had added – it was the sentence about dyslexia (and relevant ref): "He has spoken about how childhood dyslexia influenced his education and career choices." This is a theme that I believe adds meaningful nuance, and which I have also added to a number of other articles (see: Harry Lorayne, Barbara Corcoran, John Hoke, Michael Young, Jony Ive, Maya Hawke, Roberto Bolaño, to cite a few, as well as adding the subjects to this list). If no objection, I'd like to restore this information to Bergne article. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 04:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]