Talk:Scott Hall/Archive 1
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External Link: MYSPACE
I don't think a MYSPACE should go under external links. I mean, cmon. --69.163.43.67 20:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- If it's proven to be a legit account, then it's perfectly acceptable. There are TONS of articles on Wikipedia with MySpace accounts as external links. ---SilentRAGE! 23:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Fake 'Kliq' name
Someone put the name 'kadiravan' in the WWF part of Hall's bio, specifically as a member of the Kliq. I went ahead and removed it. NewPasha 17:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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Regarding the Turning Point no-show
There have been some people editing, stating the reason he no showed was due to food poisoning. It does state this on the Wrestling Observer website, but last time I checked, WON wasn't deemed a credible source. TNA does not mention anything about it on their website, so it should be left off until verified by a credible source. (For those disputing that WON is a credible source, I suggest you see the discussion for WrestleMania III as for proof it isn't deemed a credible source). Lynx Raven Raide 11:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm glad someone said it, dear god. And when an edit is reverted, the worst thing you do is vandalize the page with a direct attack at the reverter. Gavyn Sykes 16:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well they keep on adding it... Any chance of getting a lock until this info is verified by a credible source? Surely it has violated the 3 reversions rule by now... Lynx Raven Raide 20:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and tried to get it Semi-protected, as it's IPs that are adding the info anyway. Gavyn Sykes 22:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- It has been locked, but the info is still there, now putting wrestlingobserver.com as the source. Any chance someone could remove that since, as I have stated above, WON isn't seen by wiki as a credible source and it was the reason I asked for it to be locked in the first place. Lynx Raven Raide 00:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and tried to get it Semi-protected, as it's IPs that are adding the info anyway. Gavyn Sykes 22:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well they keep on adding it... Any chance of getting a lock until this info is verified by a credible source? Surely it has violated the 3 reversions rule by now... Lynx Raven Raide 20:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is some more information about the no-show. Nobody in TNA had talked to Hall since Sunday morning. Mangement was very concerned that he would no-show the event, since he was also not answering his phone. That night, Hall did send someone in the TNA a text message saying that he would not be able to the event because of food poisoning. The promo cut by Samoa Joe was legit. Mangement told Joe to go out and do a promo on Hall, however, Joe went longer than TNA wanted and said a bit more than TNA wanted him to. Kevin Nash was very dissappointed in Hall and was mad at Joe for taking some shots at him during the promo. This lead to an allercation backstage between Nash and Joe and an apology issued by Joe at the talent meeting today. Sources: http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/articles/1196667484.php, http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/articles/1196667484.php, and http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/articles/1196718528.phpMilkman519 00:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hall has some demons, some people in TNA should have known that but they tried to run an angle with him and it didnt work. Better luck next time Hall tries to come back to wrestling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.167.220 (talk) 17:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
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Scott Hall in the WWF in the 80's?
The article doesn't seem to have any mention of this run, but I certainly recall it. He was using the "Big Scott Hall" name at the time and still had the moustache. He was mainly feuding with Big John Studd, who at the time was managed by Bobby Heenan who was insisting people call his wrestler the Giant John Studd as a dig at Andre. I think it would've been around the time frame that Andre was "suspended" from the WWF and wrestling under a mask as part of the Machines tag team, so Studd needed someone else to feud with, so it would've been sometime between Wrestlmanias 2 and 3. I don't have any citations that would be needed to add any of this this to the article, so I'm not going to, but if anyone knows anything about this early, nearly forgotten part of Scott Hall's career and has some cites to back it up, please add it to the article. 76.226.99.12 (talk) 08:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- He wasn't in the WWF before his run as Razor. Are you sure your not thinking of 'Outlaw' Ron Bass? --Endless Dan 13:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Unconfirmed third TNA run
I've heard nothing about this "third TNA run" involving Scott Hall, and the only thing the article says is that he was at Turning Point 2008.
I dug up this report from WrestleZone.com: http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=228297970
It claims that Hall was with the Insane Clown Posse, they were not mentioned by name on camera, and the cameras avoided them as much as possible. The article ends with:
"At least one member of TNA has claimed to ProWrestling.Net that the company did not know Scott Hall was going to appear at ringside, which may explain why Tenay tried not to refer to him by name. Hall and the Insane Clown Posse were all wearing black and white shirts promoting their JCW wrestling promotion. Hall is said to be good friends with ICP, and has never no-showed any of their JCW events." AndarielHalo (talk) 16:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Scott Hall is not with TNA again. When Violent J, Corporal Robinson, and 2 Tuff Tony were hosting their radio show, Scott Hall called in and dared them to join him with a JWO invasion of TNA at Turning Point. That is all that happened. He also dared them to invade WWE and UFC, so we'll see what happens there.Juggalobrink (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hall was very big in the 80's and a few years later he was much smaller. Did he do steroids?~Travis 2:11, 27 June 2009
- Yup. He's said in interviews that he stopped in the WWF or shortly after arriving there because McMahon had the steroids trial coming up. I believe he said he was around 290 or close to 300 pounds while on steroids and about 260-270 off. richjenkins (talk) 2:28, 06 January 2010 (UTC)
"Plane ride from hell"
Anyone want to add anything about this since its mentioned in the article for a time reference?
- There doesn't seem to be anything about the Plane Ride from Hell incident. I might be adding the article, if someone hasn't already. Qubeh 00:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
i actually read something about that the other day, its a long story about when the wrestlers were coming back from insurexion (paper view) in the uk and they were all drinking alcohol and a number of incident occured, some of these were:
Brock lesnar and Mr Perfect fight over who was the better shooter
Bradshaw cuts off the hair of that guy who used to manage the hardy boys (cant quite remember his name but hes a white guy with a pony tail and blonde hair)
One of the divas were sexually harrassed
I cant actually remember what scott hall did but when i find the article i read this all in then i'l add a link along with the information, it was in one of the wrestlers autobiographies so im pretty sure its a trust worthy source
Apparently he was fired due to a relapse in his recovery from alcoholism, apparently asking one of the flight attendents for a blojob which McMahon detested, but was fired mainly because he assured the WWF that he was in control of these probs and wouldn't allow them to arise. He had already asked for release to fight his ex-wife in a child custody battle, so it was rumoured that he was hardly disgruntled by it. ToonIsALoon (talk) 08:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- The guy with the pony tail you are refering to is Michael "P.S." Hayes. Bradshaw doing that was a rib at Hayes who is protective of his hair.--Hndsmepete 20:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Image Caption
Just thought I would let everyone know that the image of him on the page wasn't taken in 2002. It's from the late 90s.TheGary (talk) 09:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Thought he looked a bit young there! ToonIsALoon (talk) 13:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
WCW Alcohol problems
just been reading through and it is unclear about Hall's drinking whilst wrestling under the influence in wcw. It talks about him also in a fight with Nash at a bar, however it doesnt clearly sate whether his performance was a result of being genuinely drunk or whether he exaggerated it for storyline purposes. Can someone clarify? Thanks. ToonIsALoon (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Kliq reunification
Recently Kevin Nash joined in the 2011 Royal Rumble (along with Booker T) as many know. For those who watched the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony, you would have seen that after Hunter and Shawn made up, that not only Nash, but also Sean Waltman joined Hunter and Shawn on stage and the four had a big hug. Scott Hall was the only guy missing. Does anyone know if he was at the ceremony or not? Was he invited and maybe kept off camera to avoid controversy?
I'm actually amazed because I thought they were avoiding dealing with Waltman due to the 1 Night in Chyna fiasco. But then again, they've been showing old clips of her lately (along with Beth Phoenix as the only 2 women to participate in a Rumble, as well as in old DX clips) but nothing new... so I guess if they will have him on stage but not Chyna it really must be a predominantly Stephanie issue. Time will only tell when it comes time for Hunter's own induction ceremony. DB (talk) 11:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Several 'net sources say that Hall decided to stay away from the festivities, feeling that he might have trouble staying sober. Nash commented that he felt Hall was sorely missing. As an old-time Diesel / Ramon fan who stopped watching wrestling in the mid-90ies and only recently caught up on events, this saddens me to no end. -- DevSolar (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Arrested for resisting arrest?
Is that possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.218.96 (talk) 11:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunantely yes. Well actually, it can be a charge added to whatever charge they were initially going to attempt to arrest someone for.Most states pretty much treat it the same.
Latest arrest, April 2012
Can we get better sources for this? --Mollskman (talk) 03:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
"Never wrestled under WWE branding"
- 1.8 Return to the World Wrestling Federation
"Insurrextion 2002 was the last appearance of WWF marketing television, and as he has not returned to the company since, he remains one of few former active WWF wrestlers never to have wrestled under WWE branding."
This is not correct, since he wrestled on the first RAW after Insurrextion. Nithas (talk) 14:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
It's also not correct since about a hundred WWF wrestlers haven't been in WWE. King Kong Bundy, Randy Savage, The Ultimate Warrior, The Bushwhackers, Ken Shamrock and Ahmed Johnson, to name just a few. I get that this has been removed from the article. Just pointing it out for anyone who reads it here and thinks it may be some sort of fact. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:20, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Lead section cleanup.
I've cleaned up a lot of this article, and will continue. But I can't edit the lead section without crashing my browser. It really should be just one paragraph, summing up who he is and what he's MOST notable for (wrestling in the WWF and WCW, basically), in as few words as possible. All the other crap is fine to have in the proper sections (and is already there), but totally unnecessary in the lead. See WP:LEDE for more information, or just trim it down if you already know. Thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've given it a go and cleared out a lot of crap. It's now down to brief points - he's a wrestler, best known for his runs as Razor and himself, has been a big name for years, held some important titles, co-founded the nWo, career overshadowed by personal demons. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 15:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Well done! Looks much better now. A few minor fixes, though: "Highly successful" and "much publicized" shouldn't be hyphenated. The numerals should be spelled out (nine, not 9). And, for both accuracy and conciseness, I think the actual years should be used in place of "mid 1990s" or "early 2000s". WWF 1992-1996, WCW 1996-2000. (As strange as it sounds, 2000 was actually the last year of the 1990s). After that, the cleanup tag can be removed, I think. Thanks again. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
A Little (more) Help?
Simple thing, for a regular computer. Not for a PS3. At the end of the Intercontinental Champion section, the two paragraphs about Goldust should be combined, then the two about The Kliq. A pure cut and paste is fine. Thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
What Race is he?
- Race: Human
- Nationality: American
- Ethnicity: White
- LOL Outsiderdf 2:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
>>Stupid. That's like asking what your breed of dog is and you say "Dog."
We're a species, not a race. Nauseating PC indoctrination not withstanding...I can tell you're white because only a guilt ridden, brainwashed whit guy would say that. Nine times out of ten, anyway... 67.1.58.253 (talk) 03:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Citations NEEDED, not suggested.
Per WP:BLP, controversial claims must be backed by reliable sources. LordsofPain is not a reliable source. YouTube is not a reliable source, if interpretation is necessary. (I may have improperly removed the YouTube citation for Hall's YouTube show. I apologize.) I will delete any unsourced claims in five days. I do not have to wait, but I'm a nice guy. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
>>Speaking of which, this article says he was trained by Al Snow and while it provides a source, Al Snow isn't mentioned anywhere in it. 67.1.58.253 (talk) 03:12, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- You're right. It appears it should say Dusty Rhodes instead. I can't edit the infobox without crashing, but if someone else wants to, it'd be appreciated. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- He also denies being trained by Chris Adams in the latest edition of the Steve Austin podcast - http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show86.153.29.91 (talk) 15:55, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Scott Hall (wrestler) → Scott Hall – Clear primary topic. The other two articles called "Scott Hall" are for a building on Rutgers University and a minor suburb of Leeds. They don't have the same worldwide significance that the wrestler does. GeicoHen (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- OPPOSE: Never heard of the wrestler. I do know of an actor. It's also building at NCSU, Ohio State...etc, and two more accomplished individuals presently redlinked but would make great potential articles in the spirit of WP:REDLINK. Disambiguation is appropriate here, and shows that some dumb wrestler isn't the primary topic. --ColonelHenry (talk) 18:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support Clearly the primary topic. The other Scott Halls on the dab page mostly don't even have their own articles despite being "more accomplished" and not being "dumb wrestler"s.LM2000 (talk) 19:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support "never heard of the wrestler", I never heard of the suburb. The wrestler is clearly the primary topic. The suburb is a suburb, the buldings and the other people haven' articles. Can somebody make the google test? I'll be very surprised if the suburb has more results than the wrestler. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:22, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose as an incomplete request, since the page Scott Hall already exists, and the proposal makes no suggestion about what to do with it. bd2412 T 22:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe, Scott Hall (disambiguation) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, if the wrestler were really important, but he's not.--ColonelHenry (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Given the statistical analysis below by Starship, it's clear that not only is the wrestler important (he along with other members of the Kliq changed the wrestling industry far more than anyone else), but he's far more important than anything else on that disambiguation page. Yes, moving the current page to Scott Hall (disambiguation) is a no-brainer. — Richard BB 09:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely the current "Scott Hall" goes to "Scott Hall (disambiguation)". Starship.paint (talk) 02:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe, if the wrestler were really important, but he's not.--ColonelHenry (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe, Scott Hall (disambiguation) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Reluctant support per WP:BRD (cur | prev) 05:37, 14 December 2013 (ColonelHenry moved page Scott Hall to Scott Hall (wrestler): disambiguation). not a bad move, the wrestler does fail the Google Books test "Scott Hall is", doesn't appear to have broken out of any notability beyond wrestling, and the helpful disambiguation page probably should be the base topic by WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- So, @In ictu oculi:, you've made two rational reasons for opposing, and one tenuous one for supporting, but you choose to support? Not logical, IMHO.--ColonelHenry (talk) 01:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- WP:BRD is not in itself logical, I agree. However when a good move is objected to it comes into play. I think we should bear in mind that the main improvement to en.wp over this has been the addition of a healthy dab page, whether the dab page is sited at primary or (disambiguation). If we were starting from zero Scott Hall should be a dab. WikiProject wrestling editors might also like to consider why (wrestler) after a wrestler is such a bad thing? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- To answer your question in the last sentence... direct Wikilinks. Starship.paint (talk) 02:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Definitely. Pro wrestlers, by their nature, tend to cross paths and pop up in many other wrestlers' articles. Bunch of events, too. More efficient to have the one with the most "What Links Here" require less typing. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:52, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- To answer your question in the last sentence... direct Wikilinks. Starship.paint (talk) 02:19, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- WP:BRD is not in itself logical, I agree. However when a good move is objected to it comes into play. I think we should bear in mind that the main improvement to en.wp over this has been the addition of a healthy dab page, whether the dab page is sited at primary or (disambiguation). If we were starting from zero Scott Hall should be a dab. WikiProject wrestling editors might also like to consider why (wrestler) after a wrestler is such a bad thing? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support - look, Scott Hall's last wrestled match was in May 2010, so there should not be frequent updates to his article, barring his health and legal problems. If we look at the page view statistics, the other two "Scott Hall"s which are even in Wikipedia... Scott Hall, Leeds has been viewed 622 times in the last 90 days, while Voorhees Mall (which has a Wikipedia section for Scott Hall) has been viewed 1202 times in the last 90 days (of which one day with 293 views is clearly anomalous). Scott Hall has been viewed 124472 times in the last 90 days (then minus about 4000 for the last 6 days after the move), and Scott Hall (wrestler) has been viewed 4508 times in the last 6 days. It's nowhere near comparable. Shall we look at Google News? '"Scott Hall" Leeds' produces 2 results, '"Scott Hall" "Voorhees Mall' 0 results. '"Scott Hall" WCW' one of the promotions where he wrestled in produces 20 results already, not even counting the other promotions! Lastly, Scott Hall has wrestled in the USA, Puerto Rico and Japan, of which he has had 426 television / pay-per-view matches with international broadcasting and outreach. I rest my case. Starship.paint (talk) 02:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support - Per arguments above, the wrestler is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the name. You should not move articles from stable places without doing more research then, "Uhh I never heard of them so MOVE." In the future take all controversal moves through WP:RM, so we do not have to have a requested move discussion to clean up the mess afterwards. Thanks to the nominator for starting this, I was very concerned about this move from the beginning. STATic message me! 03:30, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support per Starship.paint's clear statistics. The disambiguation page should get the parenthetical. oknazevad (talk) 05:26, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support The man has worked in his field over 30 years and 15 countries, much of that time in the eye of global television. The building has (according to the paragraph), hosted no major events in its 50 years. As far as suburbs go, this one doesn't seem succesful or large, and hasn't much of a notable (noted, anyway) past. The trumpeteer is a redlink, and objectively blows. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support per Starship.paint's outstanding statistical analysis. This seems the obvious decision to make here. — Richard BB 09:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- The trumpeter is not found on the Columbia College Chicago page nor the list of faculty members, and there are supposedly 2,000 faculty and staff members.
- Likewise "Scott S. Hall" is not mentioned in Stanford University or its list of staff, which comprises of 2,043 people. At Fragile X syndrome his name pops up, but not in the article, but as part of a reference! I'm sure there are many many people who appear in references and we do not have articles for all of them.
- (this goes to IIO) For the musician from Gardner Cole's label, I can't even find the words "Scott Hall" on his website, that's how important he is. I googled site:desertskyrecords.com "Scott Hall" or "Live At The Horseman Club" to no avail. Am I doing something wrong?
- Too many halls. We have a "planned academic building", "part of an academic building", "the largest residence hall" of a red-linked university... too many entries will just waste people's time reading for the more important things. Was someone trying too hard here?
Anyway, that's that. I'm just trying to improve the disambiguation page. Starship.paint (talk) 13:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- I think you're absolutely right. I didn't even realise just how many redundant or useless entries there are on there. I'll go through and remove the non-notable ones now. — Richard BB 13:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support. This was plainly a controversial move and so should be reverted until evidence is provided in favour of the move. McPhail (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support I'm FROM Leeds and I've never heard of a place here called Scott Hall 92.12.19.172 (talk) 05:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support the analysis provided shows the wrestler to be the primary topic and the issues brought by the two opposers can easily be dealt with. The first, the suggestion that the wrestler is not important can easily be refuted by the analysis provided earlier. The second issue, the suggestion that the article should not be moved due to no one coming up with an idea about what to do with the current Scott Hall dab page can easily be rectified with the later suggestion of moving Scott Hall to Scott Hall (disambiguation).--174.93.163.194 (talk) 01:23, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support as Starship.paint has clearly demonstrated this is the Primary Topic. The initial move conspicuously violated the credo of not being WP:RECKLESS and the rationale that "Scott Hall is a dumb wrestler and so shouldn't have a page named after him" is totally contrary to Wikipedia's principles of editing. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 02:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Support He is the primarily topic. Beerest 2 talk 16:35, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello? This should have been settled by now. Starship.paint (talk) 03:21, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- It may be a good idea if someone tries to apoeal to an Admin directly since even a cursory glance of the situation would show that there is only on logical outcome,--174.93.163.194 (talk) 04:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- There's a substantial backlog of requested moves. I get really hacked off when there's a big backlog of administrative tasks and yet most of the admins seem to be arguing at ANI. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 04:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- It may be a good idea if someone tries to apoeal to an Admin directly since even a cursory glance of the situation would show that there is only on logical outcome,--174.93.163.194 (talk) 04:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hello? This should have been settled by now. Starship.paint (talk) 03:21, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hall of fame
It is my understanding that he is being inducted as Razor Ramon. Seems relevent.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 02:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- What more, aside from the two screens of text about his WWF career and gimmick, would you like to see? Anything that suggests the gimmick will appear without the wrestler is pretty farfetched (but not impossible. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:48, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- It seems they are inducting the man under the name of the gimmick. Scott Hall isn't being inducted but his Character Razor Ramon is. Scott Hall will be there. That maybe in Character or just as Scott Hall, However the Character is who is being inducted.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- I think you're reading a bit too far into it. Over the last 21 years, most have been inducted under ring names. If there was an unprecedented change in this case, it'd be mentioned. WWE loves "historic moments". Should we say NWA Ricky Steamboat wasn't inducted, just "The Dragon"? Or Sunny, but not Tammy Sytch? Big John Studd, not Executioner #2?
- It seems they are inducting the man under the name of the gimmick. Scott Hall isn't being inducted but his Character Razor Ramon is. Scott Hall will be there. That maybe in Character or just as Scott Hall, However the Character is who is being inducted.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- People are honoured, for their accomplishments. Sometimes those accomplishments include getting a gimmick over. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:35, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
- Never been a fan of Steamboats. To the best of my knowledge he didn't wrestle as the Dragon. He Wrestled as Rick "The Dragon" Steamboat. Another thing to note is that they did not induct him as Richard Henry Blood. They are inducting Hall under "Razor Ramon". That does merit mention. However it seems to be in the article now.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 00:05, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- What I meant was he was inducted as Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, despite having the most success without the gimmick name. Despite the name, Richard Blood can honestly say he's in the Hall of Fame. I added it the way it's worded now. Just states what we can see, without any guesses about what it means. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:49, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Never been a fan of Steamboats. To the best of my knowledge he didn't wrestle as the Dragon. He Wrestled as Rick "The Dragon" Steamboat. Another thing to note is that they did not induct him as Richard Henry Blood. They are inducting Hall under "Razor Ramon". That does merit mention. However it seems to be in the article now.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 00:05, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- People are honoured, for their accomplishments. Sometimes those accomplishments include getting a gimmick over. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:35, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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"Present" change
The last 2 segments of this page had the term "present" in their titles due to overlapping dates. However I don't believe any later date entries will be added to the "second to last" segment and the change will improve the readings flow. However, If anyone disagrees with my edit, I would have no objection to someone changing it back. JericVgilbert (talk) 09:26, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Fansite
The Link to the "Scott Hall Express" Fansite isn't working. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.106.149 (talk) 19:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
"sexual harassment arrests"
No such thing. Please elaborate. Sexual harassment is a civil law cause of action, not criminal law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.201.226.213 (talk) 06:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Needs protection ASAP
Due to the high volume of vandalistic edits, someone that's able to, should make this page protected. At the very least, it should be protected to only users that are logged on can edit this page. HotMAN0199 16:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HotMAN0199 (talk • contribs)
HIS FAM IS TAKING HIM OFF LIFE SUPPORT SOON
PER KEVIN NASH'S INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:800C:500:3615:90DC:40F2:5D3C:D415 (talk) 08:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Included. starship.paint (exalt) 10:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2022
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A missing ring name for Scott Hall is “the Coyote” as he was known in a tag team with “the eagle” (Dan Spivey) as the tag team American Starship. ExerciseNFreedom (talk) 12:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2022 (2)
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He just passed, so you might want to list 3/14/2022 as his date of death. Mrmorrison (talk) 19:10, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Ded
He ded add it. 73.172.32.92 (talk) 00:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- In USA time, he died on March 14. Also, the article says he was taken off life support on March 14 and died later that day, he actually was taken off support on the 13th, and survived for 4 hours before dying on the 14th. Ulysses Grant Official (talk) 02:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Consensus on the image we should use
So we are having a bit of a disagreement regarding the header image we are using. I personally think we should keep it as Razor Ramon Intercontinental Champion (cropped).jpg personally but some want to keep it as Scotthall2010.jpg
So here is my thoughts, the main complaint has been about the image not showing his face properly, which I completely disagree with, action shots and body shots are used on several Wikipedia pages, for multiple sports and wrestlers, so I see no problem in using that specific one. Additionally I can see his face clearly on mobile of all things. Let’s try to see if we can come to an agreement Spongehog (talk) 02:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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After Scott Hall died everyone said prayers for him and his family 96.19.41.152 (talk) 12:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:05, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Better picture
Surely there's a better picture you can use for Scott Hall, don't you think? That one is so blurry. --2A02:C7E:56EA:B00:5978:7EB3:C132:F6AE (talk) 21:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a suggestion of a free alternative. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I replaced it with the image that had been used previously, because this image is the only one with some form of consensus among the writers Spongehog (talk) 22:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- No, that image is not good, his face can be barely be seen, find a better one or crop it and fix it, if not, just left the one that currently is, maybe in the future there could be a better one. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 23:54, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- What? I'm okay with the in-action image, I can see his face well. I don't really have a problem with it. Also showcases his "Razor Ramon" persona well, so I don't see why the blurry image of Hall would be better. hi im me Rc453632 00:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Already a good one in there, face can be seen real good, not blurry, everything works fine by now. TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- What? I'm okay with the in-action image, I can see his face well. I don't really have a problem with it. Also showcases his "Razor Ramon" persona well, so I don't see why the blurry image of Hall would be better. hi im me Rc453632 00:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Hall's Diamond Studd character was the prototype for Razor Ramon
I have found at least two YouTube videos from 1991 where the Diamond Studd donned a toothpick and flung it at a television camera.[1][2].2601:447:4000:220:0:0:0:F071 (talk) 04:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Hall admitted to being a Marijuana user
Please do erase this enlightening edit about his personal life. He admitted this in a face-to-face YouShoot interview in 2009.[3]2601:447:4000:220:0:0:0:F071 (talk) 04:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Second marriage
Info on second marriage has been wrong. Jessica Hart was married to hockey player Scott Hall. 2601:8C:980:8010:9CA:83DB:F0DD:C5F3 (talk) 15:45, 30 April 2022 (UTC)