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A fact from Sandra Elkin appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" women into supporting women's rights?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" women into supporting women's rights? Source: "Women viewers gain confidence after watching 'Woman' program" - The Roanoke Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/25 Water Street

Created by Thriley (talk) and Silver seren (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 20:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sandra Elkin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

If you have any suggestions for Alt hooks, Thriley, please feel free to add them. Silver seren^C 20:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The phrasing in the hook makes it sound like women were radicalized into supporting issues, as opposed to acting against them. A more appropriate phrasing might be this:

ALT1: ... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" women into supporting women's rights?
CJ-Moki (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and just removed the last word in the main hook, since it's not really a suggestion for an entirely alternative hook, but just that one word. And I agree with your reasoning on removing it, CJ-Moki. Does that work? Silver seren^C 00:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren:

Yes, that works. CJ-Moki (talk) 00:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren and CJ-Moki: there are four occasions of women's/Woman/women in a seventeen word sentence. Any way we could decrease the repetition a little? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren and AirshipJungleman29: I think this might work:

ALT2: ... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" viewers into supporting feminism?

CJ-Moki (talk) 21:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd like, CJ-Moki. I kinda did the repetition of woman and women on purpose because I thought it made the hook more fun and interesting. Silver seren^C 23:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren and AirshipJungleman29: I actually agree and prefer ALT1 over ALT2. CJ-Moki (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll promote ALT1 but I can't guarantee it won't be changed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]