Talk:Samuel Oboh

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the references in the articles are all from published third party sourcesColsmartcol (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is not true - for example the firm he is an associate of cannot be considered independent from him (and the linked page contains a statement by himself). Home stories in local newspapers do not carry much weight in terms of encyclopedic notability; typically they rely on unverified statements by the interviewed.

Please try to find better references. For an important and influential architect, it is likely that biographical books have been published about them, and that noted architectural critics have described their legacy and influence on the history of architecture. Regards, HaeB (talk) 17:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HaeB, I do not agree with your premise. Wikipedia article is not all about "important and influential" but all about knowledge. I have reviewed the references and find no basis for your criticism. The fact that the subject is a President of a reputable institute such as the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada in Alberta makes him notable enough to be featured and be a subject of study... Your comment seem to denigrate this feat or achievement of the subject.

The reference to the linked page is meant to substantiate the fact that the subject is indeed an Associate of the firm. I hope you are not suggesting that the reference in question here has been faked.

Your comment that "Home stories in local newspapers do not carry much" does not apply in this case because; the Edmonton Journal is not just a local newspaper but also a source of research information used by notable universities like the University of Alberta. Moreover, the subject is not only published in one newspaper, he was also carried on numerous regional newspapers such as the Windsor Times in East Canada, Victoria Columnist in Pacific Canada and in the Calgary Herald. There are many architects but I think only few can boast of being featured in numerous regional and national newspapers. I can send clips from these newspapers if you so desire.

You also ignored other references such as the RAIC websites where the subject was featured. At no point did the article claim that the subject is important or influential as you insinuated and I do not want to believe that you are trying to suggest that Wikipedia is an elitist portal.Ndiye thabo (talk) 12:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, for your information, I have been following this Architect since from Botswana when I first saw his work on the Police Academy project - He was featured with the then President of Botswana (Festus Mogae)Ndiye thabo (talk) 12:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article is not all about "important and influential" but all about knowledge. - you are free to disagree with Wikipedia's notability principles, but please be aware that these are not going to change anytime soon.

I did not suggest that the information on the company web site was faked, but that its use in the article obviously contradicts Colsmartcol's claim that the references " are all from published third party sources".

To understand my concerns about the other sources better, read the General notability guideline.

You also removed the "Advert" tag without addressing the concern that much of the article is written in advertising-like language, apparently by someone who is more familiar with the style of than with the neutral, factual style expected in an encyclopedia, and especially Wikipedia (see WP:NPOV). One example which flies in the face of WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK: "implementing various innovative initiatives despite daunting challenges posed by limited resources".

I have been following this Architect since from Botswana - in the light of the fact that your only activities on Wikipedia since you joined last October have been concerned with Samuel Oboh, can I ask you if you are in any way affiliated with him? (I asked Colsmartcol the same question more than half a year ago, but haven't gotten an answer.) If that is the case, please read our Conflict of interest guidelines and be aware that Wikipedia is not a free advertising space, have a look at Wikipedia:FAQ/Business (especially the section "May I advertise my organization or its campaigns, products, services or leading individuals on Wikipedia?").

Regards, HaeB (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]