Talk:Saint Peter's School (Saint Petersburg)

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Requested move 8 September 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to "Saint Peter's School (Saint Petersburg)". (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:32, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Peter's School → Saint Peter's School (St. Petersburg) – and then this page be pointed to St Peter's School, which is a disambiguation page with many entries. All searches on St Peter's School go there already, but Saint Peter's School comes here. I think this distinction is rather subtle and is lost on your typical searcher.

Saint Peter's School is an old, famous, large, and historically important school. It is probably the the top result (in importance, not pageviews) for St/Saint Peter's School. But there are so many other St Peter's schools, that together they prevent this school (which after all is not in the Anglosphere) from being the Primary topic.EDIT: Apparently the usual move would be to Saint Peter's School (Saint Petersburg) and I'd like to recommend this as the new name instead. Herostratus (talk)

As to pageviews, this page (Saint Peter's School) is getting three a day, while for instance St. Peter's Boys School in India alone is getting 230 a day. So... Herostratus (talk) 01:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 17:50, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support indeed per WP:DABCOMBINE these are likely searched interchangeably and given the view stats I doubt that this one is primary for the specific term "Saint Peter's School" especially given the DAB lists one in Canada using "Saint" although it fails WP:DABMENTION. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support, any institutions beginning with "Saint" or "St" are likely to be mixed up. bd2412 T 16:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Saint Peter's School (Saint Petersburg) per Saint Petersburg. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I guess, but St. Louis isn't spelled out... maybe it is different for Petersburg, but then this Google Ngram show "St/St. Petersburg" used a lot more than "Saint Petersburg". Herostratus (talk) 23:41, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is because St. Louis is in the USA and American English uses the full stop after "St". However, Commonwealth English usually does not and therefore for names from non-English-speaking countries we commonly spell out "Saint" in full to avoid controversy over which form to use for the abbreviation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhh OK. Well then Saint Petersburg, that's fine. Herostratus (talk) 23:09, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - as stated in the nomination, this school is far and away the most notable and historic of the entries on the page, and as such is a clear primary topic per long-term significance. St Peter's School should be moved to St Peter's School (disambiguation), and the base redirected here. — Amakuru (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support Saint Peter's School (Saint Petersburg). Not famous enough to be primary topic. Coming from SE Asia I have heard of many schools named after St Peter but just not this one.--Roy17 (talk) 15:43, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support WP:NOPRIMARY In ictu oculi (talk) 09:05, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.