Talk:SMS Hessen
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GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:SMS Hessen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
- One awkward tag to fix.
- Is this better?
- One awkward tag to fix.
- B. MoS compliance:
- Hore and Tarrant need a place of publication.
- Added. Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hore and Tarrant need a place of publication.
- A. Prose quality:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- Was Hessen damaged at all during WWII? Have you checked Rohwer?
- I haven't seen anything on the ship during the war other than the icebreaking mission for the raiders and a note about the ship being used as a target by some squadron or other of dive-bombers in 1940. I don't have access to Rohwer though. Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing in Rohwer, I just checked.
- I haven't seen anything on the ship during the war other than the icebreaking mission for the raiders and a note about the ship being used as a target by some squadron or other of dive-bombers in 1940. I don't have access to Rohwer though. Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Was Hessen damaged at all during WWII? Have you checked Rohwer?
- B. Focused:
- Were the men killed crewmen of Hessen or of the torpedo boat? Ammo expenditure numbers in the second Jutland para do not match earlier account. I'd read Hessen fired her main battery five times as saying that the ship fired five volleys, not five individual guns. Plus that doesn't include the main gun rounds fired at the imaginary submarine. Double check the numbers, please. Might be worth mentioning that some of her guns, IIRC, were turned into RR guns.
- Most of this has been addressed; I haven't seen anything about Hessen's guns in particular as railroad guns. Do you know of a source? Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, see 28 cm SK L/40 "Bruno"; it's all cited there.
- I'll check it out in the morning. Parsecboy (talk) 03:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, see 28 cm SK L/40 "Bruno"; it's all cited there.
- Most of this has been addressed; I haven't seen anything about Hessen's guns in particular as railroad guns. Do you know of a source? Parsecboy (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Were the men killed crewmen of Hessen or of the torpedo boat? Ammo expenditure numbers in the second Jutland para do not match earlier account. I'd read Hessen fired her main battery five times as saying that the ship fired five volleys, not five individual guns. Plus that doesn't include the main gun rounds fired at the imaginary submarine. Double check the numbers, please. Might be worth mentioning that some of her guns, IIRC, were turned into RR guns.
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
Post review comments
[edit]A number of notable people served in various positions on SMS Hessen. To my knowledge these include:
- Ernst Lindemann 1st artillery officer
- Wilhelm Marschall as commander
- Rolf Carls as commander
- Alfred Saalwächter
- Erhard Schmidt (admiral) as commander
- Hermann Boehm as commander
I would expect this to be added before the article advances to A- or FA-Class. MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have citations for these? If so, I can add them to the article. Parsecboy (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is all in the books by Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd need page numbers to put in, if you have access to them. Parsecboy (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- And really, I'll need time frames to be able to find places to put this information. Parsecboy (talk) 16:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd need page numbers to put in, if you have access to them. Parsecboy (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is all in the books by Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Photos
[edit]here (to update File:Hessen battleship.jpg) and possibly here. Parsecboy (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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