Talk:Ryu Sung-hyun

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A fact from Ryu Sung-hyun appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Olympian Ryu Sung-hyun (pictured) taught himself gymnastics for four years because his father did not want him to become an athlete?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ryu Sung-hyun.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryu at the 2019 Junior World Championships

... that Olympian Ryu Sung-hyun (pictured) taught himself gymnastics for four years because his father did not want him to become an athlete?

Source: KNSU (in Korean), The Dong-a Ilbo (in Korean)

ALT1: ... that Ryu Sung-hyun (pictured) is set to become the first Korea National Sport University student athlete to compete at two Olympic Games? Source: KNSU (in Korean)
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Bowden
Comment: ~~QPQ coming soon~~ Done.

5x expanded by Riley1012 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Riley1012 (talk) 13:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment I'm an IP user so I think I can't approve the overall DYK, but just a heads up that I'm a Korean speaker and I verified that both hook 1 and ALT1 are supported by the sources given. I'll give a slight comment that I'd prefer ALT1 be worded as "... that Ryu Sung-hyun (pictured) will become the first Korea National Sport University student athlete to compete at two Olympic Games?" Think the meaning of this is slightly clearer and it's slightly more concise. I prefer the main hook to ALT1 though; think it's more interesting. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. I have changed the wording on ALT1. I was trying to figure out how to emphasize that he is competing in two Olympics while enrolled in the school- there are multiple alumni who have competed in multiple Olympics. -Riley1012 (talk) 12:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: hooks that treat the future as definite are problematic. I'm assuming Ryu Sung-hyun has qualified for the Olympics, but even athletes on their country's Olympic teams sometimes don't end up competing due to injury, illness, accident, or some other complication, so "will" is a problem (see WP:CRYSTAL). Perhaps "is set to become" could be used (though, like the IP user, I prefer the original hook):
ALT1a: ... that Ryu Sung-hyun (pictured) is set to become the first Korea National Sport University student athlete to compete at two Olympic Games?
Note that if you want the Olympics in the original hook, you can do so simply by adding "Olympian" before his name. —BlueMoonset (talk) 04:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that is totally fair. I've incorporated both of your suggestions. -Riley1012 (talk) 10:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is well-written, well-sourced, and well-organised. Both English-language and Korean-language sources were checked for close paraphrasing; no issues arose. Both hooks are interesting and verified, but I strongly favour the initial hook over ALT1. Yue🌙 03:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]