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On 12 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Russophobia. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Statements about inferiority of Russians

It should be included references like this https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ejk4p3jxjo with statement that Russians are genetically inferior to Western people — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A45E:72A7:1:DABB:C1FF:FEAC:7283 (talk) 21:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Common sense

This article should just redirect to Common sense. 2A02:3030:802:B5C9:1:0:38BC:893D (talk) 22:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DE -Lemonaka‎ 12:07, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common sense is that people like you are not allowed to edit this article. 91.129.102.55 (talk) 22:04, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-russian narration

Reading this, it's easy to have the impression that it was mostly written with pro-russian bias. Only the small part mentions that "Russophobia" is sometimes used by Russia as narrative to cover up the fact that some of the alleged "phobia" is just natural reaction to Russian imperialism. This section should be longer, as "Russophobia" is infact mostly a phobia of Russian imperialism coming from eastern European nations that were abused. Imagine an article about "British empire phobia", as British Empire was at many levels similar to Russian Empire when it comes to colonizing, just not over seas. I'm pretty sure that article about "British-phobia" would mostly consist of the argumentation that British phobia was mostly natural reaction to British imperialism and exploitation. It's sad that Russian imperialism is not regarded as serious imperialism in the West, because of thinking among the lines that Russia was not imperialistic, because "they didn't have oversea colonies, and later they had communism so they must love equality", etc... 46.204.100.225 (talk) 02:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, there are plenty of russian mods on English Wikipedia who work day and night to whitewash russian atrocities as much as possible. 109.87.36.102 (talk) 11:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Orthodoxy

Philomathes2357, Russia has historically called itself a "protector" and "true embracer" of Eastern Orthodoxy in detriment of every other Orthodox nation. This article does not cover anything about religion and it being a motivation behind anti-Russian sentiment: it covers such sentiment in Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox and Muslim nations alike. To me including this link in the see also section is only following this game of Russia being some kind of representative of Orthodoxy, when this is everything this 217,781-bytes, 11,544-words long article has to say about Orthodoxy: In February 2022, a Russian Orthodox Church in Calgary was vandalized with red paint., On 4 March 2022, a parish of the Russian Orthodox Church in Victoria, British Columbia was painted blood red by vandals, possibly in response to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine., In October 2022, numerous threats were made towards individuals affiliated with a Russian Orthodox Church in Calgary. By the way, the article on Persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians covers mostly Serbs and other Orthodox nations under the Ottoman Empire, there is almost nothing about Russia.

I don't see anything to gain from having this link and it risks following this game of anti-Russian sentiment being linked to anti-Orthodox sentiment when it is not, as our articles in Wikipedia show. Other articles on anti-national sentiment (Anti-British sentiment#See also, Anti-German sentiment#See also, Anti-Kurdish sentiment#See also) do not link the article on sentiment against their religion and doing so would suggest both are related. For all these reasons I insist the link be removed. Super Ψ Dro 09:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and just removed the link. Rsk6400 (talk) 12:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Super Ψ Dro 17:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 July 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. I can't see any consensus to move as there isn't any evidence of being the common name from the supporters. (closed by non-admin page mover) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Russian sentiment → Russophobia – This is the more common and natural name, and also the word used more frequently in the article. It also naturally mirrors the Russophilia article. JDiala (talk) 05:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I think this page simply follows a convention for pages that belong to Category:Anti-national_sentiment. Speaking on Russophobia, that would probably belong to Category:Phobias. At the very least, it would be a more narrow subject that deals with the irrational fear, as opposed to merely disliking something or someone. Saying that, whatever was described in sources as "Russophobia" does belong to this page, hence we have a redirect. My very best wishes (talk) 17:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per MVBW, I concur that common naming standard for articles in Category:Anti-national_sentiment is Anti-Foo sentiment, not Foophobia. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is the most common name. We shouldn't override WP:COMMONNAME because other articles do something else. Super Ψ Dro 11:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Criticism of Russia

Should this redirect here for now? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No at least for now. It would be very confusing as "Criticism of Russia" includes entirety of Russian state. Ahri Boy (talk) 12:07, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]